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Subject: [wsrp-wsia] Minutes 27 January 2003 Face-to-Face


Attached is a text file with the minutes for the first day of the 
face-to-face meeting at SAP in Palo Alto, CA.

Steven Smith
Director of Information Services and Technology
Capitol College
voice: (301) 369-2800 x2548
fax: (301) 953-1180
Minutes for WSRP Face-to-Face Meeting 27 January 2003
Meeting started 10:01am Pacific Time

Voting Members Attending:
Abdelnur, Alejandro Sun Microsystems    Yes
Aickin, Sasha       Plumtree       Yes            
Allamaruaju, Subbu  BEA            Yes            
Atkinson, Olin Novell              No                  
Blich, Amir         SAP            Yes            
Braun, Chris        Novell              Yes            
Brooks, Rex         Starbourne          Yes            
Cox, T.J.      Novell              No
Cox, William        BEA            Yes            
Dirking, Brian      Stellent       No
Freedman, Michael   Oracle              Yes            
Fubini, Ross        Plumtree       Yes            
Jacob, Richard IBM            Yes            
Klein, Jon          Reed-Elsevier       Yes            
Kramer, Andre  Citrix              Yes
Kropp, Alan         Vignette Corporation     Yes
Leue, Carsten       IBM            Yes
Machak, Dan         Tibco               Yes
Nolan, Adam         Reed-Elsevier       Yes
Randhawa, Sunit     Fujitsu             No
Ratcliffe, Nigel    Factiva        Yes
Schaeck, Thomas     IBM            Yes
Shumakher, Gennady  SAP            No
Smith, Steven       Capitol College     Yes
Tamari, Yossi       SAP Portals         Yes            
Tayar, Gil          WebCollage          Yes            
Thompson, Rich      IBM            Yes            
van Lydegraf, Eric  Kinzan         Yes            
Young, Michael Plumtree       No        
Wiecha, Charles     IBM            Yes            

Members on Leave of Absence:
Filicetti, Gino          Bowstreet No
Mitsuoka, Madoka    Fujitsu        No
Palas, Petr         Moravia IT     No
Ramesh, Raj         CommerceOne    No
Reshef, Eilon       WebCollage     No
Rudnicki, Joe       U.S. Navy No

Prospective Members:
Batra, Atul         Sun Microsystems    Yes

Non-Voting Members:
Martin, Monica Drake Certivo  Yes

24 of 30 voting members present.  Quorum is present for meeting.

We will vote on a new secretary today before going to lunch.  He or she will start with the next
phone meeting.  New secretary is Dan Machak.

First we revisit issue #123 about inconsistency in ResourceList handling
     Proposed resolution:
     - Appears only in directly returned structures
     - Drop from PortletDescription and ModelDescription
     - Add structures PortletDescriptionResponse and PortletPropertiesDescriptionResponse
     -> No objections

Rich will go through all the change requests, ordered by page number in the specification.

Summary of Actions - In numerical order by decision:

********************************************
No Objections - Resolutions stated in Rich's Emails (notes about changes made in meeting)
     Issues
     #123
     #173
     #191

     Change Requests
     #2
     #15 - Text fixed same way as #58
     #16 (affected by #57)
     #25 - (1) Add sentence to 6.1.8 & similar wording to 6.8 and 6.9
          (2) Move userAuthentication from markupParams to UserContext
     #27
     #28 - Add "Note that the use of such technologies does not relieve the need for a Portlet"
     #29 - Drop second sentence & make first sentence say the right thing
     #31
     #32
     #33
     #34
     #38
     #39
     #40
     #42
     #44
     #45 - mimeAttributes instead of mimeHeaders
     #46 - Include newState (change from Required to Optional)
     #47
     #48 - Drop Security.AuthenticationFailure
     #51 - Add editorial text to clarify extensions
     #52
     #53
     #54 - Change "An opaque string, unique within the registrationContext, which the
Consumer MAY ..."
     #55
     #56
     #57 (also effects #16)
     #58 
     #59
     #60
     #61
     #62
     #73 - Add Interface.InvalidSession fault and text (similar to invalidCookie fault)
     #74
     #76
     #77
     #87
     #88 - Change to "client-side scripting and XForms are examples of technologies..."
     #89
     #90 - Drop all but first sentence
     #91 - Drop "WSIA and" & Change to "WSRP protocol operates over connectionless
technologies"
     #92
     #93
     #96
     #99
     #94
     #95
     #117 (also see Other Actions) 
     #118
     #119
     #120 - Change to "when a transient item is created" & drop parenthetical phrase
     #122

********************************************
Tentatively Resolved
     Change Requests
     #37 - Rich will develop description (see #86)
     #86 - Rich will develop description (see #37)

********************************************
 Leave As Is
     Change Requests
     #30
     #36
     #41 - Handled by earlier resolution
     #43
     #67
     #68
     #72
     #100
     #123

********************************************
Revisit for Version 2
     Change Requests
     #75
     #79
     #80

********************************************
Other Actions
     #4 - Rich will send Gil an email about not doing the change
     #71 - Andre will write proposed text and where it should be in the spec
     #78 - Referred to WSDL subgroup
     #117 - Sasha will write description of what an end-user can do without explicitly
mentioning the operations

********************************************
********************************************

Meet tomorrow at 9:00am Pacific 

Wednesday dinner reservation at 8:00pm (restaurant had other groups ahead of us)

Meeting ended at 4:56pm Pacific


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