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Subject: Re: [wsrp-wsia] Minutes for 13 February 2003 Meeting (Corrected)



maybe I missed something concerning the call schedules, could someone
please clarify:
I though the compliance and interop calls should be wednesdays at 11AM EST
and 11:30 EST with duration of 30min.
Here we say it's thursdays.
At that schedule is the coordination call. I know that we said that the
next coordination call is scheduled in 4 weeks.
So my queastion is: do we really want to have the compliance/interop calls
on thursdays?
If we had them on wednesdays then they would interfere with the markup call
11AM EST.
Could we schedule the markup call to 12AM wednesdays? Currently there is no
overlap of the member in compliance/interop and markup so
maybe we could have them in parallel and leave the markup call at 11AM EST.

Mit freundlichen Gruessen / best regards,

        Richard Jacob
______________________________________________________
IBM Lab Boeblingen, Germany
Dept.8288, WebSphere Portal Server Development
Phone: ++49 7031 16-3469  -  Fax: ++49 7031 16-4888
Email: mailto:richard.jacob@de.ibm.com


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Added Prospective Members to attendance list.

Minutes: February 13, 2003

WSRP Members in attendance:
    Abdelnur, Alejandro   Sun Microsystems        yes
    Aickin, Sasha         Plumtree Software        no
    Allamaruaju, Subbu    BEA Systems Inc.        yes
    Atkinson, Olin        Novell                  yes
    Blich, Amir           SAP                     yes
    Braun, Chris          Novell                   no
    Brooks, Rex           Starbourne              yes
    Cox, T.J.             Novell                   no
    Cox, William          BEA Systems Inc.        yes
    Dirking, Brian        Stellent                 no
    Filicetti, Gino       Bowstreet            loa-no
    Freedman, Michael     Oracle Corporation      yes
    Fubini, Ross          Plumtree Software       yes
    Jacob, Richard        IBM                     yes
    Klein, Jon            Reed-Elsevier            no
    Kramer, Andre         Citrix Systems, Inc.    yes
    Kropp, Alan           Vignette Corporation    yes
    Leue, Carsten         IBM                  loa-no
    Machak, Dan           TIBCO Software Inc.     yes
    Martin, Monica        Drake Certivo        obs-no
    Mitsuoka, Madoka      Fujitsu                 yes
    Nolan, Adam           Reed-Elsevier            no
    Palas, Petr           Moravia IT           loa-no
    Rameshl, Raj          CommerceOne             yes
    Randhawa, Sunit       Fujitsu                 yes
    Ratcliffe, Nigel      Factiva                 yes
    Reshef, Eilon         WebCollage           loa-no
    Rudnicki, Joe         U.S. Navy            loa-no
    Schaeck, Thomas       IBM                     yes
    Shumakher, Gennady    SAP                      no
    Smith, Steven         Capitol College         yes
    Tamari, Yossi         SAP                     yes
    Tayar, Gil            WebCollage               no
    Thompson, Rich        IBM                     yes
    van Lydegraf, Eric    Kinzan                   no
    Young, Michael        Plumtree Software        no
    Wiecha, Charles       IBM                      no

Prospective Members in Attendance
    Batra, Atul           Sun Microsystems, Inc.  yes

Total voting members:         31
Voting members in attendance: 20 (65%)
A quorum was present.


Call began at 9:27 after some technical difficulties
with the conferencing system.

Minutes were accepted from the F2F meeting without comment
(There was no meeting last week.)

Times were set up for some of the sub-committees. Details
will be forthcoming in the emailed invitations.

conformance:      Thursdays 8:00-8:30 PST
interoperability: Thursdays 8:30-9:00 PST

Markup:           Wednesdays 8:00 PST

Eventing sub-committee will be the
portlet coordination sub-committee. Currently
planning on having a monthly call.

Jacob taking over web-site webmaster duties for
WSRP at the OASIS site. Minutes and specs should
be sent to him.

CHANGE REQUESTS
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Change Request 128: Cache invalidation due to perform*Interaction()

The proposal was to state that the Consumer-side
cache for a portlet should/must be flushed as a result
of an action targeting that portlet. The concern here
is that the portlet currently has no control over the
invalidation of the Consumer-side cache, and you could
end up with inconsisten behavior for some portlets.

Michael and others pointed out that there was agreement
at the November F2F was that version 1 would not deal
with an invalidation caching mechanism. The concern was
that this was a complex subject and more time was required
in order to do it right. Part of this concern was that
by specifying any type of behavior related to invalidation
you could hamper the implementation of more sophisticated
extensions or hamper the ability to specify a mechanism
in a future specification version.

Resolved:
Will provide guidance (not at a conformance level), that the
COnsumer may want to consider the cache invalid after
and action. Will also add a comment that future versions
of the specification would address invalidation
caching explicitly.


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Change Request 129: wsrp-url portlet URL parameter

Would require the Consumer to propagate the same type
of request (e.g. GET, POST) for a resource.

Michael: prefer to leave the flexibility, for Consumers that
         want to only do POST. See no value in going this tight.

Resolved:
Will provide guidance (not at a conformance level) that the
Consumer should use the same method it received.

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Change Requests 130.131.132  WSDL updates

Resolved: Changes accepted without objection


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Change Request 133: Wild card mime types for MarkupType structure

Not every portal is aggregating portlets. Portlets are
accessed by individual requests. Some portlets may generated
varying types of markup.

Resolved: Accepted without objection

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Change Request 134: Make MarkupType.locales optional

Portlets may not know all the locales it supports since
content may be pulled from another source.

Resolved:
Make it optional: semantic is that if absent, any locale
will be accepted.

Add in wildcard support as described in Change Request

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Change Request 135: Add Display Name


Display Name: name designed to be used in Portlet
              repository toolbox displayed to page designer

Title: Meant to be displayed in portlet banner shown to
       end-user.

Resolved: accepted without objection
-------------------------------------------------------

Will resume with Change Request 136 at the next meeting.

Meeting adjourned at 10:05 PST


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