Re: [wsrp-wsia] Minutes for 20 February 2003 Meeting

[Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>]

Thanks Dan,

This immediate timing is pretty incredible.

However, in #136 I thought we agreed to add
	[O] string	userProfileItems[]
to Section 5.1.18 UserContext

to match up with
Section 5.1.11 PortletDescription
	[O] string	userProfileItems[]

the same way that
	[O] string	userCategories[]
in Section 5.1.18 UserContext

matches up to
	[O] string	userCategories[]
in Section 5.1.11 Portlet Description

I'm sure it amounts to the same thing as you have said in fewer 
words, but I worry that the term Description gets used in both 
UserContext and PortletDescription.

And if I'm wrong, please let me know.

Ciao,
Rex

P.S. I have about three hours of writing up the minutes of our 
Wednesday HumanMarkup meeting, so I guess I'm in stickler mode 
because at least these items are concrete rather than open to 
interpretation.

At 10:40 AM -0800 2/20/03, Danny Machak wrote:
>Minutes for WSRP teleconference on 2/20/03
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>
>Meeting begain at 9:09 PST
>
>============================================================
>Roll Call
>
>Voting Members in Attendance:
>     Abdelnur, Alejandro   Sun Microsystems        yes
>     Aickin, Sasha	  Plumtree Software       yes
>     Allamaruaju, Subbu	  BEA Systems Inc.        yes
>     Atkinson, Olin	  Novell                  yes
>     Blich, Amir           SAP                     yes
>     Braun, Chris          Novell                   no
>     Brooks, Rex           Starbourne              yes
>     Cox, T.J.             Novell                   no
>     Cox, William          BEA Systems Inc.         no
>     Dirking, Brian        Stellent                 no
>     Freedman, Michael     Oracle Corporation      yes
>     Fubini, Ross          Plumtree Software       yes
>     Jacob, Richard        IBM                     yes
>     Klein, Jon            Reed-Elsevier           yes
>     Kramer, Andre         Citrix Systems, Inc.    yes
>     Kropp, Alan           Vignette Corporation    yes
>     Leue, Carsten         IBM                     yes
>     Machak, Dan           TIBCO Software Inc.     yes
>     Mitsuoka, Madoka      Fujitsu                  no
>     Nolan, Adam           Reed-Elsevier           yes
>     Rameshl, Raj          CommerceOne             yes
>     Randhawa, Sunit       Fujitsu                  no
>     Ratcliffe, Nigel      Factiva                  no
>     Schaeck, Thomas       IBM                     yes
>     Shumakher, Gennady    SAP                      no
>     Smith, Steven         Capitol College          no
>     Tamari, Yossi         SAP                     yes
>     Tayar, Gil            WebCollage              yes
>     Thompson, Rich        IBM                     yes
>     van Lydegraf, Eric    Kinzan                   no
>     Young, Michael        Plumtree Software        no
>     Wiecha, Charles       IBM                      no
>
>Total voting members:         32
>Voting members in attendance: 20 (62%)
>A quorum was present.
>
>Prospective Members in Attendance:
>     Batra, Atul           Sun Microsystems        yes
>
>Observers in Attendance:
>     Martin, Monica        Drake Certivo	           no
>
>Members on Leave of Absence
>     Filicetti, Gino       Bowstreet                no
>     Palas, Petr           Moravia IT               no
>     Reshef, Eilon         WebCollage               no
>     Rudnicki, Joe         U.S. Navy                no
>
>
>
>============================================================
>The minutes were accepted from the teleconferance on 2/13/02
>
>
>============================================================
>Rich started addressing the outstanding change requests.
>
>All of the following changes were accepted without
>objection:
>
>Small editorial/grammar changes :
>  145 - Missing 'the' in 6.1.10
>  146 - Rearrange phrases in 6.2.1.1
>  148 - Explicitly "session" scope
>  149 - Respecting grouping
>  150 - Typing of extensions
>  152 - Drop "is"
>  154 - false -> "false"
>  159 - Delete reference to included field
>  160 - Update useCachedMarkup description
>  161 - Ports, not bindings
>  163 - Plural field names for arrays
>
>============================================================
>Summary of the substantive changes:
>
>  139 - Add UpdateResponse.isSecure?                TABLED
>  140 - Add PortletDescription.onlySecure?          ACCEPTED
>  141 - Add previous windowState and mode?          TABLED
>  157 - Add pushesPersistentState?                  NOT ACCEPTED
>  136 - Producer supported user profile types       ACCEPTED
>  137 - Producer supported window states and modes  ACCEPTED
>  138 - How does info get to proxied resources      TABLED
>
>============================================================
>  139 - Add UpdateResponse.isSecure?
>       
>        Reasoning: This is the only case where the Producer
>        cannot control security of the transport.
>
>        Tabled for this week. Discussion was taking too long.
>
>============================================================
>  140 - Add PortletDescription.onlySecure?
>
>        Reasoning: JSR-168 Alignment. A JSR-168
>        portlet can describe itself as always being secure.
>        The technical reason is that this allows the Consumer
>        to optimize the user experience.
>
>        Resolved: the flag will be added to PortletDescription
>
>============================================================
>  141 - Add previous windowState and mode?
>
>        Reasoning: JSR-168 Alignment. This will allow
>        the Producer to get back to the mode or window state
>        it was in prior to being changed by the Consumer.
>
>        Tabled for this week. Allow people to think about it
>
>============================================================
>  157 - Add pushesPersistentState?
>
>        Reasoning: Allow Producers to specify that it will
>        require Consumers to store persisted state.
>
>        Mike raised the point that it is not optional for
>        Consumers to support persistence.
>
>        Resolved: Don't do this in version 1. Perhaps in a
>        future version, we may relax the constraint on
>        Consumers having to support persistence.
>
>============================================================
>  136 - Producer supported user profile types
>
>        Reasoning: JSR-168 Alignment. Allows having localized
>        descriptions of the profiles. This will be similar to
>        userCategoryDesciptions
>
>        Resolved: Will define userProfileDescription similar
>        to userCategoryDescription. Provided in Producer
>        description.
>
>============================================================
>  137 - Producer supported window states and modes
>        Reasoning: JSR-168 Alignment. Same behavior as for
>        userProfileDescriptions in CR 136.
>
>        Resolved: accepted
>
>============================================================
>  138 - How does info get to proxied resources (Insert a new section
>10.4?)
>
>        Reasoning: Some proxied resources need to have access
>        to additional state in order to execute properly.
>
>        Question on whether Consumers need to handle cookies
>        in accordance with the cookie spec.
>
>        Resolved: The section will probably be useful, but
>        there are still some open questions. Continue with
>        email discussion
>============================================================
>
>Next week will do a 1-hour call on Tuesday and
>a 2-hour call on Thursday.
>
>Meeting adjourned at 10:10 PST
>
>
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