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Subject: [Fwd: [wsrp] [wsrp-wsia] [change request #240] Remove Interface.UnsupportedLocalefault]


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Oops, I just realized I hadn't done this TODO from our last conference call .. here is the message intended to kickoff discussion:

I submitted the change request [appended] because its not clear how we intend consumers/producers to behave with respect to the locale information published by the producer about a given portlet.  I.e. If a producer publishes a locale list in MarkupType [page 20, line 24] is this an exclusive list?  I.e. the consumer can safely choose to ignore this portlet if it needs a different locale [and doesn't want to support mixed locales]?   Basically, are we saying that if the producer publishes this information then the consumer should restrict the requested list by this list? And if it doesn't [without also indicating it handles anything via passing *] then it should expect this exception?  If so, then it seems strange to provide this exception [so the consumer can gracefully recover] vs it merely doing the check before making the call.  Or is this exception added for the situation that the producer didn't publish a list of locales and the consumer asks for one that isn't supported?  But again the document seems to say that by leaving this list out the producer will try its best -- so why again isn't it reasonable that the producer always return content in this situation [which contains the locale information] and the consumer merely inspect it and decide what to do?

To make this simplier what can the consumer count on in terms of what/how the producer works when:
       a) the producer passes a list of locales in the PD
       b) the producer leaves out the locales in the PD

And for each of the above, what is the circumstance under which the producer would throw the UnsupportedLocale exception?
      -Mike-

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Subject: [wsrp] [wsrp-wsia] [change request #240] Remove Interface.UnsupportedLocale fault



Document: Spec
Section: 6.2.1 +
Page/Line: 43/21
Requested by: Michael Freedman
Old text: Interface.UnsupportedLocale
New text: remove this exception
Reasoning: Do we really want the producer/portlet to throw this explicit
exception if it can't match the requested locale?  Wouldn't it be better
if portlets thought of the consumers list as preferred locales and
merely returned the markup with whatever locale it decided to use?  The
consumer could then decide what it wanted to do.  This fits a little
better in the world where the portlet is implemented in Java as
parts/much of the content may come from resource bundles which always
resolve to a default whether the requested locale exists or not.  In the
end, if a portlet wants to merely abort the render and return an
exception it can always use Interface.OperationFailed.  I.e. as the
consumer has the portlet meta data that indicates what locales its
supports it seems that those consumers that want to ban inappropriate
locales can choose to do so be not calling the render method based on
this information.  Right now, a consumer that wants content no matter
what is forced to explicitly pass * as the last entry in its list.


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