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Subject: Minutes for 27 March 2003 Meeting
Meeting started at 8:06 PST ==================================================================== Roll Call Voting Members: --------------------------------- Alejandro Abdelnur Sun yes Sasha Aickin Plumtree no Subbu Allamaraju BEA yes Olin Atkinson Novell yes Atul Batra Sun yes Amir Blich SAP yes Chris Braun Novell no Rex Brooks Starbourne yes T.J. Cox Novell no William Cox BEA yes Brian Dirking Stellent no Michael Freedman Oracle yes Ross Fubini Plumtree yes Richard Jacob IBM yes Jon Klein Reed-Elsevier yes Andre Kramer Citrix yes Alan Kropp Vignette Corporation yes Carsten Leue IBM yes Dan Machak Tibco yes Madoka Mitsuoka Fujitsu yes Petr Palas Moravia IT yes Raj Ramesh CommerceOne no Sunit Randhawa Fujitsu yes Thomas Schaeck IBM yes Gennady Shumaker SAP yes Yossi Tamari SAP Portals yes Gil Tayar WebCollage no Rich Thompson IBM yes Charles Wiecha IBM yes Total voting members: 29 Voting members in attendance: 23 (79%) A quorum was present. Members on Leave Of Absence ---------------------------- Nigel Ratcliffe Factiva LOA Joe Rudnicki U.S. Navy LOA Steven Smith Capitol College LOA Eric van Lydegraf Kinzan LOA ==================================================================== The minutes from 3/20/03 were accepted ==================================================================== Schedule for finishing the spec (Thomas): March 26 Deadline for submitting Change Requests March 27 and April 3 calls to process these Change requests. Email vote to commence April 10 and end April 16 The March 26 date is a hard cutoff date, and the other dates are targets. ==================================================================== Summary of Change Requests 237b- Alternative for supporting a control set style DEFERRED(1.1) 240 - Remove Interface.UnsupportedLocale fault PARTIALLY ACCEPTED* 242 - Logic of 127 chars recommendation unclear. ACCEPTED 243 - extensions field description ACCEPTED 244 - Back door to declaring charsets for MarkupTypes ACCEPTED 245 - UserScope and caching WITHDRAWN 246 - userProfileItemDescriptions rename ACCEPTED 247 - Rename binding wsdl file ACCEPTED 248 - Section CSS classes ACCEPTED 249 - Class name length impact on performance DEFERRED 250 - Only 1 performBlockingInteraction() per End-User interaction? ACCEPTED * See details below ==================================================================== #237(b): Alternative for supporting a control set style => Discussion of how the Consumer can inform the Portlet of the controls "normally" in use for the mode/window state. The question here was to allow the Consumer to pass an ordered list of controls to the Producer and to specify the layout of those controls in the generated markup. There was a general feeling that we should spend more time considering this functionality in the next version of the spec. There was to be two separate votes: one to decide whether the Consumer specifies the order of controls, and if that passes, on whether the Consumer can specify a layout of those controls within the markup. Vote results on Consumer specifying the order of controls: yes: 3 no: 16 abstain: 4 Alejandro Abdelnur Sun no Subbu Allamaraju BEA no Olin Atkinson Novell no Atul Batra Sun no Amir Blich SAP no Rex Brooks Starbourne yes William Cox BEA no Michael Freedman Oracle yes Ross Fubini Plumtree no Richard Jacob IBM no Jon Klein Reed-Elsevier abstain Andre Kramer Citrix no Alan Kropp Vignette Corporation yes Carsten Leue IBM no Dan Machak Tibco no Madoka Mitsuoka Fujitsu no Petr Palas Moravia IT no Sunit Randhawa Fujitsu abstain Thomas Schaeck IBM no Gennady Shumaker SAP no Yossi Tamari SAP Portals no Rich Thompson IBM abstain Charles Wiecha IBM abstain There was no need to vote on the layout question. Resolution: Deferred to 1.1 ------------------------------------------- The decision on 237 (a) was re-opened. There is a concern that the Consumer would have to define a stylesheet for each locale in order to address locale-specific labels. ==================================================================== #240: Remove Interface.UnsupportedLocale fault => Discussion has come down to either we should: 1. tighten up the semantics around locales (Consumer MUST select from the set declared as supported through the PortletDescription, etc.) ... this would keep the fault definition. 2. Leave locales as a prioritized request and allow the Portlet to return any locale ... this would remove the fault definition. Resolution: Accepted in modifed form: go with option 2, but keep the fault as a Specialization of OperationFailed in order to allow a portlet to support the tight semantics. ==================================================================== #242: Logic of 127 chars recommendation unclear. => Suggestion looks to add clarity as to why the first 127 characters are recommended. Resolution: Accepted. ==================================================================== #243: extensions field description => Request breaks the one sentence description of the extensions field into 2 in order to clearly state that extensions elements MUST come from a non-wsrp namespace. Resolution: Accepted. ==================================================================== #244: Back door to declaring charsets for MarkupTypes => Should the spec comment on the mime type can include optional declarations such as charset? Resolution: Accepted. Spec will comment that the mime type should not be used in this way. ==================================================================== #245: UserScope and caching => Is a Consumer prohibited or discouraged from caching content when it does not understand the specified userScope? Resolution: Withdrawn ==================================================================== #246: userProfileItemDescriptions rename => Consistency says this field should be customUserProfileItemsDescriptions Resolution: Accepted. ==================================================================== #247: Rename binding wsdl file => Noting that for consistency, this filename should use the plural "bindings". Resolution: Accepted. ==================================================================== #248: Section CSS classes => Question raised whether to define a parallel set of classes that are table specific? Resolution: Accepted ==================================================================== #249: Class name length impact on performance => Request by the "performance police" that the class names be shortened. Resolution: Deferred. Consider other names over the next week. ==================================================================== #250: Only 1 performBlockingInteraction() per End-User interaction? => What is the harm as long as the blocking semantics are followed? Also, this conflicts with the required semantics of receiving back an InvalidSession or InvalidCookie fault message. Resolution: Accepted: Redo the sentence so that a portlet will only recieve one performBlockingInteraction() per request. Clarify language about allowing for retries. Semantics of performBlockingInteraction() are similar to synchronized methods. ==================================================================== Revist Tie Vote on CR 242? There will be an email vote on this issue. Thomas will set this up. ==================================================================== Next Meeting: Thursday April 3 8:00 am PST / 11:00 am EST / 5:00 pm CET duration: 2 hours ==================================================================== Meeting officially adjournded at 10:09 AM PST
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