Re: [egov] Re: [emergency] FYI: IBM, HP Release Proposed Web ServicesStandard

["Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>]

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I wonder why this effort is not being conducted within a standards body.
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Excellent point Rex - and a point that applies to many other "similar"
specifications (using term loosely) such as most of the GXA (Global XML
Web Services Architecture) specifications (many of the WS-*
specifications). There are more Web Services-related "specifications"
right now within "vendor consortiums" than there are within open
standards consortiums such as OASIS and W3C. 

Kind Regards,
Joe Chiusano

Rex Brooks wrote:
> 
> Hi Carl, Everyone,
> 
> I noticed this, too. Last week we had the eventing spec mentioned
> below that included a notification element using subscription with
> "event source" and "event sink" which I expressed some disapproval
> for, though with some approval for as well, in the WSRP lists,
> favoring instead the simpler "sender/receiver" model from a previous
> paper. This week we have a notification spec. The eventual merging of
> these two offerings is mentioned in the report. In particular, with
> regard to how this merging is likely to occur, I wonder why this
> effort is not being conducted within a standards body.
> 
> Ciao,
> Rex
> 
> At 8:31 AM -0500 1/21/04, creed@opengis.org wrote:
> >IBM, HP Release Proposed Web Services Standard Jan. 20, 2004
> >
> >More Stories on:
> >Software
> >
> >WS-Notification provides a mechanism for standards-based
> >communications of events within a network of computer systems.
> >By Antone Gonsalves, TechWeb News
> >
> >IBM, Hewlett-Packard, and other high-tech companies on Tuesday
> >released a Web services specification for interoperability between
> >systems within a supply chain, grid computing, and an infrastructure
> >management environment.
> >WS-Notification provides a mechanism for standards-based
> >communications of events within a network of computer systems.
> >Examples could include an application notifying another that a
> >purchase order has been accepted, or that data is ready for
> >download. Until recently, communicating such "events" between
> >business applications was done through proprietary messaging systems.
> >
> >The same computing need within a web services architecture is being
> >addressed by Microsoft, BEA Systems, Tibco Software, and others
> >through a separate specification called WS-Eventing. IBM stressed
> >that the groups aren't competing, but are taking different
> >approaches.
> >
> >The priorities of IBM and its partners focus on allowing message
> >brokers, such IBM MQSeries, to be present between the event
> >publisher and the subscriber within a network, in addition to
> >managing all other notifications and the end points.
> >
> >In addition, IBM is interested in supporting its grid-computing
> >initiative, which needed notification to work. Grid computing is the
> >sharing of processing power across a network so that all machines
> >function as one larger supercomputer.
> >
> >Although Microsoft and its partners are focused on a different set
> >of priorities and products, analysts expect the technologies from
> >the two camps to eventually be brought together into one
> >specification. "I don't believe we're going to see a battle here,"
> >said Ron Schmelzer, an analyst for high-tech researcher ZapThink.
> >
> >Karla Norsworthy, director of E-business technology for IBM,
> >confirmed that IBM intends to eventually merge the specifications,
> >although there's no timetable. "We're quite confident that we can
> >converge these technologies," Norsworthy said. "We can figure out
> >how the Eventing specification fits into the larger picture that
> >we're drawing. It may require some changes to both specifications,
> >and we're anxious to roll up our sleeves and get to work."
> >
> >In building WS-Notification, the companies incorporated integration
> >with Web services management technologies under development by
> >Oasis, an international standards body, and standards under
> >development by the Global Grid Forum, Norsworthy said.
> >
> >While specification work appears to be progressing, businesses may
> >have to wait a bit for product incorporating these standards. While
> >the vendors plan to ship product, most are at the stage of letting
> >the specifications provide the guide to their overall technology
> >strategies.
> >
> >"IBM (for example) has a logical plan for tying all this together,"
> >Schmelzer said. "This specification is aimed at contributing to that
> >cohesive framework."
> >
> >Besides WS-Notification, IBM, HP, Sonic Software, and Tibco released
> >WS-Resources Framework, a description of how to handle application
> >communications related to expiration of contracts and service level
> >agreements, deleting products from inventory systems and other
> >processes.
> >
> >
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