Re: [wsrp] User Profile Items - Draft Proposal

[Subbu Allamaraju <subbu@bea.com>]

I can see the sentiment here, but as the way it stands now, types of 
user profile items expressed at discovery time cannot (unambiguously) be 
used to extract user profile items at runtime without really 
understanding extensions. It is risky for a producer to search for 
elements of those types within extensions.

Without runtime changes, there is little or no value in expressing 
custom user profile items at discovery time. It still leaves some guess 
work for interop.

Regards,

Subbu

Rich Thompson wrote:
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> I would agree that it is misleading to claim UserProfile is not 
> extensible in v1 as extension points exist at every level in the 
> hierarchy, including the base. What was accepted as an issue at the F2F 
> is that there is no means to exchange type metadata about custom user 
> profile items. I could see ModelDescription as a good candidate for how 
> to exchange this information, but do not see a need to change the way 
> such items are carried at runtime (i.e. as extension elements).
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> Rich
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> *"Andre Kramer" <andre.kramer@eu.citrix.com>*
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> 06/01/05 04:09 AM
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> It's a bit miss leading to claim UserProfile elements can't be extended
> in 1.0. While I'm not opposed to using properties as a extension
> mechanism, I think the intent was to allow each of the UserProfile
> sub-elements to be extensible? E.g. EmployerInfo could carry standard
> codes for type-of-business in an extension element using some existing
> XML schema. Therefore, would it not be better to leave custom values to
> XML as an extension, at the appropriate level, relying on namespacing,
> rather than forcing a property model to be in use at the profile level?
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> Regards,
> Andre
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Subbu Allamaraju [mailto:subbu@bea.com]
> Sent: 31 May 2005 20:46
> To: wsrp
> Subject: [wsrp] User Profile Items - Draft Proposal
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> One of the action items at the last F2F was for Richard and me to
> propose a fix to the user profile related inconsistencies in the V1
> spec.
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> I'm attaching a note on this for your review. Since Richard is out sick,
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> I would appreciate if someone from IBM checks to see if it meets his
> concerns and use cases.
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> Regards,
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> Subbu
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