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Subject: Minutes for WSS TC June 01, 2004


Minutes for WSS TC June 01, 2004.

1.  Meeting was called to order 10:15 AM; Kelvin Lawrence and Chris Kaler
were in the Chair.  
John R. Weiland, US Navy, acted as recording secretary for this meeting.

Steve Anderson did Roll Call:
Attendance of voting members

45 out of 60 in attendance, quorum achieved.

Attendance of Voting Members

  Frank Siebenlist Argonne National Lab
  Hal Lockhart BEA
  Corinna Witt BEA
  Symon Chang CommerceOne
  Davanum Srinivas CA
  Thomas DeMartini ContentGuard
  Guillermo Lao ContentGuard
  TJ Pannu ContentGuard
  Sam Wei Documentum
  John Hughes Entegrity
  Dana Kaufman Forum Systems
  Toshihiro Nishimura Fujitsu
  Irving Reid HP
  Kojiro Nakayama Hitachi
  Paula Austel IBM
  Derek Fu IBM
  Maryann Hondo IBM
  Kelvin Lawrence IBM
  Mike McIntosh IBM
  Anthony Nadalin IBM
  Ron Williams IBM
  Bob Morgan Individual
  Paul Cotton Microsoft
  Vijay Gajjala Microsoft
  Alan Geller Microsoft
  Chris Kaler Microsoft
  Ellen McDermott Microsoft
  Richard Levinson Netegrity
  Prateek Mishra Netegrity
  Frederick Hirsch Nokia
  Abbie Barbir Nortel
  Charles Knouse Oblix
  Steve Anderson OpenNetwork
  Jerry Schwarz Oracle
  Ben Hammond RSA Security
  Andrew Nash RSA Security
  Rob Philpott RSA Security
  Coumara Radja Sarvega
  Pete Wenzel SeeBeyond
  Jeff Hodges Sun Microsystems
  Ronald Monzillo Sun Microsystems
  Jan Alexander Systinet
  John Weiland US Navy
  Phillip Hallam-Baker VeriSign
  Maneesh Sahu Westbridge Technology
  
  
Attendance of Prospective Members and Observers

  Steven Lewis Booz Allen Hamilton
  Konstantin Shmakov BEA
  Senthil Sengodan Nokia


Membership Status Changes

  Steven Lewis Booz Allen Hamilton - Granted voting status after 6/1/2004
call
  Don Adams TIBCO - Lost prospective status after 6/1/2004 call

--
Steve Anderson
OpenNetwork

2.  Last meeting's minutes.  Minutes approved.

3.  Ballot status: only 39 percent of members participating so far.  Vote
closes 9pm est. Tuesday June 01.  Comment was made that vote counts towards
good standing.  Last vote cancelled and restarted after name change.  Kavi
has not been sending out voting reminders.

4.  SAML interop status Vijay Gajjala states 113 passing tests 4 failing.
First week some issues were addressed and the SAML profile updated.  Second
week saw good progress.  A request was made for another week.  So far
indication is 5 revisions to interop scenario and a couple to the SAML
profile.  Issues logged into issues list.  Ronald Monzillo wonders if some
test cases should be in interop if they are not being implemented (Microsoft
has not chosen to implement scenario #2).

Richard Levinson states of the available test cases all are working except
for three and MicroSoft did not implement scenario #2. Vijay will provide a
status grid showing passing, failing, and not implemented. Thanks to VJ for
all the coordination.  Anthony Nadalin wants to figure out which test cases
are missing to fully test out this profile.  

5.  Errata status and review - Soon to be posted to TC.

6.  Status of other profiles - No open issues coming out of XrML interop.
Kerberose few issues, no comment.  

7. Issue list review

273 - SAML - Revision 11 has statement closing this issue   Issue Closed
277 - Kerberose profile
Issue Open
280 - IP issues for SAML interop Andrew Nash sent a clarifying note to the
list Issue Closed
281 - Addition to Errata
Issue Pending
282 - Paul Cotton has action to explore password based key derivation Issue
Open   Proposal available this week
283 - Hal and Phil were to research and get back with the TC Issue Open
Action this week
285 - Transforms for securing attachments - proposal to list Thursday or
Friday, more time needed to review. 	
Frederick Hirsch asked TC to consider if it should be a profile, or a change
to the core document. Open pending review
286 - SAML interop issue - Richard Levinson confirms resolution Issue Closed
287 - SAML interop issue - Done but needs revision Issue Pending
288 - SAML interop issue - Raised during interop and responded to Issue
Closed
289 - Typographic error in transform Issue Closed
290 - Delta between Core and SAML specs - needs discussion - raised by Ed
from Microsoft,  Vijay Gajjala and Ronald Monzillo will come up with a
proposal for discussion. Issue Pending
291 - SAML Clarification - changed in version 11 Issue Closed
292 - Interop scenario #3 issue - duplicate of 288 Issue Closed 
293 - X509 V1 certificates are obsolete, Irving Reid thinks there is no
particular reason to exclude them.  TC polled for objections to add them.
Ronald Monzillo will write up a proposal on this topic for TC review and
action.  Issue Pending
294 - Issue Closed

Other Issues not captured:  Ronald Monzillo mentions question on SAML token
profile points out that sender voucher example looks like holder key.
Better description being sent to Vijay Gajjala for incoporation.

Other Business:  Vijay Gajjala needs help splitting issues list from version
1 and current issues - Ronald Monzillo volunteers.

Chris Kaler asks four things of the TC prior to final role call:
1.  Please vote remember it counts towards good standing.  (8 more people
voted during the call)
2.  Read Kerberose Profile and submit issues so we can progress.
3.  Read Transform that Frederick Hirsch and company proposes.  Noting that
Technical aspects as well as the appropriate 
publishing form factor should be (Core versus Profile).
4.  People with action items to mailing list for progress.

Meeting adjourned.

Very Respectfully, <<wss minutes 2004-0601.txt>> 

John R. Weiland
Information Technology Specialist 
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Naval Medical Information Mngmt Cntr
Bldg 27
8901 Wisconsin Ave
Bethesda, Md. 20889-5605

301-319-1159
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http://navalmedicine.med.navy.mil
"GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH"
A remark of Archimedes quoted by Pappus of Alexandria



Minutes for WSS TC June 01, 2004.

1.  Meeting was called to order 10:15 AM; Kelvin Lawrence and Chris Kaler were in the Chair.  
John R. Weiland, US Navy, acted as recording secretary for this meeting.

Steve Anderson did Roll Call:
Attendance of voting members

45 out of 60 in attendance, quorum achieved.

Attendance of Voting Members

  Frank Siebenlist Argonne National Lab
  Hal Lockhart BEA
  Corinna Witt BEA
  Symon Chang CommerceOne
  Davanum Srinivas CA
  Thomas DeMartini ContentGuard
  Guillermo Lao ContentGuard
  TJ Pannu ContentGuard
  Sam Wei Documentum
  John Hughes Entegrity
  Dana Kaufman Forum Systems
  Toshihiro Nishimura Fujitsu
  Irving Reid HP
  Kojiro Nakayama Hitachi
  Paula Austel IBM
  Derek Fu IBM
  Maryann Hondo IBM
  Kelvin Lawrence IBM
  Mike McIntosh IBM
  Anthony Nadalin IBM
  Ron Williams IBM
  Bob Morgan Individual
  Paul Cotton Microsoft
  Vijay Gajjala Microsoft
  Alan Geller Microsoft
  Chris Kaler Microsoft
  Ellen McDermott Microsoft
  Richard Levinson Netegrity
  Prateek Mishra Netegrity
  Frederick Hirsch Nokia
  Abbie Barbir Nortel
  Charles Knouse Oblix
  Steve Anderson OpenNetwork
  Jerry Schwarz Oracle
  Ben Hammond RSA Security
  Andrew Nash RSA Security
  Rob Philpott RSA Security
  Coumara Radja Sarvega
  Pete Wenzel SeeBeyond
  Jeff Hodges Sun Microsystems
  Ronald Monzillo Sun Microsystems
  Jan Alexander Systinet
  John Weiland US Navy
  Phillip Hallam-Baker VeriSign
  Maneesh Sahu Westbridge Technology
  
  
Attendance of Prospective Members and Observers

  Steven Lewis Booz Allen Hamilton
  Konstantin Shmakov BEA
  Senthil Sengodan Nokia


Membership Status Changes

  Steven Lewis Booz Allen Hamilton - Granted voting status after 6/1/2004 call
  Don Adams TIBCO - Lost prospective status after 6/1/2004 call

--
Steve Anderson
OpenNetwork

2.  Last meeting's minutes.  Minutes approved.

3.  Ballot status: only 39 percent of members participating so far.  Vote closes 9pm est. Tuesday June 01.  Comment was made that vote counts towards good standing.  Last vote cancelled and restarted after name change.  Kavi has not been sending out voting reminders.

4.  SAML interop status Vijay Gajjala states 113 passing tests 4 failing.  First week some issues were addressed and the SAML profile updated.  Second week saw good progress.  A request was made for another week.  So far indication is 5 revisions to interop scenario and a couple to the SAML profile.  Issues logged into issues list.  Ronald Monzillo wonders if some test cases should be in interop if they are not being implemented (Microsoft has not chosen to implement scenario #2).

Richard Levinson states of the available test cases all are working except for three and MicroSoft did not implement scenario #2. Vijay will provide a status grid showing passing, failing, and not implemented. Thanks to VJ for all the coordination.  Anthony Nadalin wants to figure out which test cases are missing to fully test out this profile.  

5.  Errata status and review - Soon to be posted to TC.

6.  Status of other profiles - No open issues coming out of XrML interop.  Kerberose few issues, no comment.  

7. Issue list review

273 - SAML - Revision 11 has statement closing this issue   Issue Closed
277 - Kerberose profile 						Issue Open
280 - IP issues for SAML interop Andrew Nash sent a clarifying note to the list Issue Closed
281 - Addition to Errata 						Issue Pending
282 - Paul Cotton has action to explore password based key derivation Issue Open   Proposal available this week
283 - Hal and Phil were to research and get back with the TC Issue Open Action this week
285 - Transforms for securing attachments - proposal to list Thursday or Friday, more time needed to review. 	
Frederick Hirsch asked TC to consider if it should be a profile, or a change to the core document. Open pending review
286 - SAML interop issue - Richard Levinson confirms resolution Issue Closed
287 - SAML interop issue - Done but needs revision Issue Pending
288 - SAML interop issue - Raised during interop and responded to Issue Closed
289 - Typographic error in transform Issue Closed
290 - Delta between Core and SAML specs - needs discussion - raised by Ed from Microsoft,  Vijay Gajjala and Ronald Monzillo will come up with a proposal for discussion. Issue Pending
291 - SAML Clarification - changed in version 11 Issue Closed
292 - Interop scenario #3 issue - duplicate of 288 Issue Closed 
293 - X509 V1 certificates are obsolete, Irving Reid thinks there is no particular reason to exclude them.  TC polled for objections to add them.  Ronald Monzillo will write up a proposal on this topic for TC review and action.  Issue Pending
294 - Issue Closed

Other Issues not captured:  Ronald Monzillo mentions question on SAML token profile points out that sender voucher example looks like holder key.  Better description being sent to Vijay Gajjala for incoporation.

Other Business:  Vijay Gajjala needs help splitting issues list from version 1 and current issues - Ronald Monzillo volunteers.

Chris Kaler asks four things of the TC prior to final role call:
1.  Please vote remember it counts towards good standing.  (8 more people voted during the call)
2.  Read Kerberose Profile and submit issues so we can progress.
3.  Read Transform that Frederick Hirsch and company proposes.  Noting that Technical aspects as well as the appropriate 
publishing form factor should be (Core versus Profile).
4.  People with action items to mailing list for progress.

Meeting adjourned.



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