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Subject: IPR statement from OTP submitters


From Mar 21 minutes (see thread below):

> Link to Legacy IPR Policy:
>
<http://www.oasis-open.org/who/ipr/intellectual_property_2000-1-13.php>
...
> Recommendation that OTP submitters look at submission statement whose

> URL Paul Cotton provided and consider providing additional  
> clarification.
>
> John agrees to speak with Phillip Hallam-Baker  (co-editor) and to  
> determine how to respond to concerns.

Has this been done yet?

/paulc

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329
mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com

 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frederick Hirsch [mailto:frederick.hirsch@nokia.com]
> Sent: March 22, 2006 2:49 PM
> To: WSS Oasis
> Cc: Frederick Hirsch
> Subject: [wss] WSS Minutes 21 March 06 - v2
> 
> WSS TC bi-weekly call Minutes
> taken by Frederick Hirsch
> v2 - added attendance.
> 
> Date:  Tuesday, 21 March 2006
> Time:  07:00am - 09:00am PT
> We are grateful to IBM for sponsoring this call
> 
> Attendance list at end.
> 
> Agenda:
> 1. Call to order/roll call
> 
> Quorum achieved. (22 of 32 present)
> 
> (Note: Dr Kefeng Chen, Geotrust entered twice in roster due to
> signing membership agreement, so OASIS needs to update this Kavi
record)
> 
> 2. Reading/Approving minutes of last meeting 21st February(2006) [1]
> 
> Minutes approved without objection.
> 
> 3. SAML 2 Interop status
> 
> Prateek reported that Endpoint has been established, working on next
> steps with members of TC planning to participate.
> 
> Prateek will forward information to the list.
> (Done - See <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wss/email/
> archives/200603/msg00021.html> )
> 
> 4. Issues list (if any issues)
> 
> TC thanks Mike Rudolf for updating issues list. No open issues
> currently on list.
> 
> Tony has new issue, related to closed issue item, errata item.
> 
> In non-normative section is a mistaken URI which needs correction.
> 
> AI - Tony to post red-line version of errata indicating fix for non-
> normative typo.
> 
> If no objections raised on the list regarding the fix, will start
> ballot to approve 3 days after posting on list.
> 
> 5. Remaining business for 2006 (continuing prior discussion)
> 
> Errata, SAML 2 interop ( already discussed on this call).
> 
> OTP profile discussion:
> Updated converged specification was posted about two weeks ago, no
> comments on list apart from comments from Tony on list.
> 
> Concern raised by Tony regarding all contributions associated with
> the document, and ability to identify all authors and their
> willingness to license IPR.
> 
> (see <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wss/email/archives/
> 200603/msg00014.html>,
> <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wss/email/archives/
> 200603/msg00017.html> )
> 
> John Linn indicated that meeting OASIS policy was confirmed by
> submitters in last fall, worked with major contributors (authors) to
> achieve submission.
> 
> Tony asks about technical contributions by various parties, concerned
> about potential IPR issues.
> 
> John Linn - can always have IPR issues from any party.
> 
> Tony - concerned that we cannot identify everyone that has
> contributed to document.
> 
> John Linn - have sought to identify and contact parties that have
> contributed to document, doing what OASIS policy required.
> 
> Chris - In the past the TC has had an approach where anyone who has
> contributed to a submission document has agreed to make the material
> royalty free.
> 
> Abbie points out that under the legacy IPR policy, that this is not
> required.
> 
> Link to Legacy IPR Policy:
>
<http://www.oasis-open.org/who/ipr/intellectual_property_2000-1-13.php>
> 
> Paul Cotton states that he is looking for something from contributors
> of OTP work similar to this statement from the original submissions
> to WSS :
>
<http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/wss/documents/ipr_statement.shtml>
> (June 26, signed by original authors of WSS contribution, IBM,
> Microsoft, Verisign)
> 
> Issue is that all authors properly identified and willing to
> contribute under RF policy.
> 
> John Linn - RSA and Verisign are the submitters.
> 
> Abbie - Need to understand IPR implications of submission before
> voting on it.
> 
> Recommendation that OTP submitters look at submission statement whose
> URL Paul Cotton provided and consider providing additional
> clarification.
> 
> John agrees to speak with Phillip Hallam-Baker  (co-editor) and to
> determine how to respond to concerns.
> 
> Paul Cotton: Hal had technical questions on key derivation in the list
> 
> AI Create OTP - issue for Hal technical comments
> See <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wss/200601/msg00012.html>
> 
> AI Create OTP - issue Tony sent email which needs to be captured in
> issues list, reference to SecureID, registered trademark
> See <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wss/email/archives/
> 200603/msg00018.html>
> 
> Need to double check that trademark use is allowed in document (not
> allowed in name need to double check)
> (Note Frederick has raised with OASIS board Process/IPR committees).
> 
> See consolidated submission
> <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wss/download.php/17082/
> wss-1.1-OTPTokenProfile-draft-01.pdf>
> 
> Paul Cotton : Line 172-174, 175-177 where is SecureID-AES algorithm
> defined?
> 
> John Linn, possible to remove line 172-177
> 
> Concern about legal issues associated SecureID-AES
> 
> Paul Cotton - URIs in section 2.3 describe time based algorithms,
> need to understand technology references and what patent statement
> covers.
> Are they described in non-referenced material? Can we understand IPR
> status?
> 
> John - no intent that any algorithm is required to implement this
> specification
> 
> Irving Reed - This is about naming, some OTP algorithms are
> proprietary, still want to be able to name them.
> 
> Hal - not useful for interop if you cannot find out details of
> algorithm, need to have published reference
> 
> Irving Reed  - can use if you own/license algorithm, so still useful
> 
> Hal - reasonable to allow any identifier to be used, but spec should
> only list those that can be used. No need for proprietary identifier
> to be standardized.
> 
> Chris - concern about references to encumbered algorithms/identifiers.
> 
> John agrees to look at original WSS IPR statement noted above.
> Question of when a response can be expected, to determine whether we
> should have next call.
> 
> Will discuss on list as needed.  Decide at end of next week determine
> whether enough material to have the next WSS call.
> 
> Will keep call on calendar since we may also have other business -
> errata, FAQ etc.
> 
> Paul notes that WSS conflicts with WS-SX F2F meeting. Maybe schedule
> WSS for 1 hour.
> 
> Minimal Profile - need a bit more time to research, will report back
> on next call.
> 
> 6. Other business
> 
> Discussion of Hal FAQ posting.
> <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wss/email/archives/
> 200603/msg00019.html>
> 
> FAQ based on OASIS FAQ template. Asks TC to review and then we can
> make changes and adopt for web site.
> 
> Plan to vote on it so it reflects TC opinion.
> 
> Paul Cotton - comment, would like references to technologies that are
> referenced in FAQ (e.g. TLS etc), also visible links for those that
> print document.
> 
> Question regarding REL - need reference to standard.
> 
> Action for TC to review.
> 
> 7. Adjournment
> 
> [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wss/200603/msg00009.html
> 
> ===============================================
> Attendance
> 
> First   Last Name           Company
> 
> Abbie   Barbir              Nortel Networks Limited*
> Carolina Canales-Valenzuela Ericsson*
> Symon   Chang               Blue Titan Software*
> Kefeng  Chen                GeoTrust, Inc.*
> Paul    Cotton              Microsoft Corporation*
> Thomas  DeMartini           ContentGuard*
> Don     Flinn*              Individual
> Ben     Hammond             RSA Security*
> Frederic Hirsch             Nokia Corporation*
> Dana    Kaufman             Forum Systems, Inc.*
> Rich    Levinson            Computer Associates*
> John    Linn                RSA Security*
> Hal     Lockhart            BEA Systems, Inc.*
> Michael McIntosh            IBM*
> Prateek Mishra              Oracle Corporation*
> Ronald  Monzillo            Sun Microsystems*
> Vamsi   Motukuru            Oracle Corporation*
> Anthony Nadalin             IBM*
> Kojiro  Nakayama            Hitachi, Ltd.*
> Irving  Reid                Hewlett-Packard*
> Pete    Wenzel              Sun Microsystems*
> Chris   Kaler               Microsoft Corporation*
> Kelvin  Lawrence            IBM*
> 
> Members
> Kefeng  Chen                GeoTrust, Inc.*
> Kate    Cherry              Lockheed Martin*
> Phillip Hallam-Baker        VeriSign *
> Will    Raymond             Tibco Software Inc.*
> Greg    Whitehead           Hewlett-Packard*
> 
> Lost Status
> Toshihir Nishimura,         Fujitsu Limited
> Denis   Pilipchuk           BEA Systems, Inc.
> Ron     Williams            IBM*
> 
> Regained Status
> Kate    Cherry              Lockheed Martin*
> Phillip Hallam-Baker        VeriSign *
> Greg    Whitehead           Hewlett-Packard*
> 
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