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Subject: IPR statement from OTP submitters
From Mar 21 minutes (see thread below): > Link to Legacy IPR Policy: > <http://www.oasis-open.org/who/ipr/intellectual_property_2000-1-13.php> ... > Recommendation that OTP submitters look at submission statement whose > URL Paul Cotton provided and consider providing additional > clarification. > > John agrees to speak with Phillip Hallam-Baker (co-editor) and to > determine how to respond to concerns. Has this been done yet? /paulc Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3 Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329 mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Frederick Hirsch [mailto:frederick.hirsch@nokia.com] > Sent: March 22, 2006 2:49 PM > To: WSS Oasis > Cc: Frederick Hirsch > Subject: [wss] WSS Minutes 21 March 06 - v2 > > WSS TC bi-weekly call Minutes > taken by Frederick Hirsch > v2 - added attendance. > > Date: Tuesday, 21 March 2006 > Time: 07:00am - 09:00am PT > We are grateful to IBM for sponsoring this call > > Attendance list at end. > > Agenda: > 1. Call to order/roll call > > Quorum achieved. (22 of 32 present) > > (Note: Dr Kefeng Chen, Geotrust entered twice in roster due to > signing membership agreement, so OASIS needs to update this Kavi record) > > 2. Reading/Approving minutes of last meeting 21st February(2006) [1] > > Minutes approved without objection. > > 3. SAML 2 Interop status > > Prateek reported that Endpoint has been established, working on next > steps with members of TC planning to participate. > > Prateek will forward information to the list. > (Done - See <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wss/email/ > archives/200603/msg00021.html> ) > > 4. Issues list (if any issues) > > TC thanks Mike Rudolf for updating issues list. No open issues > currently on list. > > Tony has new issue, related to closed issue item, errata item. > > In non-normative section is a mistaken URI which needs correction. > > AI - Tony to post red-line version of errata indicating fix for non- > normative typo. > > If no objections raised on the list regarding the fix, will start > ballot to approve 3 days after posting on list. > > 5. Remaining business for 2006 (continuing prior discussion) > > Errata, SAML 2 interop ( already discussed on this call). > > OTP profile discussion: > Updated converged specification was posted about two weeks ago, no > comments on list apart from comments from Tony on list. > > Concern raised by Tony regarding all contributions associated with > the document, and ability to identify all authors and their > willingness to license IPR. > > (see <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wss/email/archives/ > 200603/msg00014.html>, > <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wss/email/archives/ > 200603/msg00017.html> ) > > John Linn indicated that meeting OASIS policy was confirmed by > submitters in last fall, worked with major contributors (authors) to > achieve submission. > > Tony asks about technical contributions by various parties, concerned > about potential IPR issues. > > John Linn - can always have IPR issues from any party. > > Tony - concerned that we cannot identify everyone that has > contributed to document. > > John Linn - have sought to identify and contact parties that have > contributed to document, doing what OASIS policy required. > > Chris - In the past the TC has had an approach where anyone who has > contributed to a submission document has agreed to make the material > royalty free. > > Abbie points out that under the legacy IPR policy, that this is not > required. > > Link to Legacy IPR Policy: > <http://www.oasis-open.org/who/ipr/intellectual_property_2000-1-13.php> > > Paul Cotton states that he is looking for something from contributors > of OTP work similar to this statement from the original submissions > to WSS : > <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/wss/documents/ipr_statement.shtml> > (June 26, signed by original authors of WSS contribution, IBM, > Microsoft, Verisign) > > Issue is that all authors properly identified and willing to > contribute under RF policy. > > John Linn - RSA and Verisign are the submitters. > > Abbie - Need to understand IPR implications of submission before > voting on it. > > Recommendation that OTP submitters look at submission statement whose > URL Paul Cotton provided and consider providing additional > clarification. > > John agrees to speak with Phillip Hallam-Baker (co-editor) and to > determine how to respond to concerns. > > Paul Cotton: Hal had technical questions on key derivation in the list > > AI Create OTP - issue for Hal technical comments > See <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wss/200601/msg00012.html> > > AI Create OTP - issue Tony sent email which needs to be captured in > issues list, reference to SecureID, registered trademark > See <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wss/email/archives/ > 200603/msg00018.html> > > Need to double check that trademark use is allowed in document (not > allowed in name need to double check) > (Note Frederick has raised with OASIS board Process/IPR committees). > > See consolidated submission > <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wss/download.php/17082/ > wss-1.1-OTPTokenProfile-draft-01.pdf> > > Paul Cotton : Line 172-174, 175-177 where is SecureID-AES algorithm > defined? > > John Linn, possible to remove line 172-177 > > Concern about legal issues associated SecureID-AES > > Paul Cotton - URIs in section 2.3 describe time based algorithms, > need to understand technology references and what patent statement > covers. > Are they described in non-referenced material? Can we understand IPR > status? > > John - no intent that any algorithm is required to implement this > specification > > Irving Reed - This is about naming, some OTP algorithms are > proprietary, still want to be able to name them. > > Hal - not useful for interop if you cannot find out details of > algorithm, need to have published reference > > Irving Reed - can use if you own/license algorithm, so still useful > > Hal - reasonable to allow any identifier to be used, but spec should > only list those that can be used. No need for proprietary identifier > to be standardized. > > Chris - concern about references to encumbered algorithms/identifiers. > > John agrees to look at original WSS IPR statement noted above. > Question of when a response can be expected, to determine whether we > should have next call. > > Will discuss on list as needed. Decide at end of next week determine > whether enough material to have the next WSS call. > > Will keep call on calendar since we may also have other business - > errata, FAQ etc. > > Paul notes that WSS conflicts with WS-SX F2F meeting. Maybe schedule > WSS for 1 hour. > > Minimal Profile - need a bit more time to research, will report back > on next call. > > 6. Other business > > Discussion of Hal FAQ posting. > <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wss/email/archives/ > 200603/msg00019.html> > > FAQ based on OASIS FAQ template. Asks TC to review and then we can > make changes and adopt for web site. > > Plan to vote on it so it reflects TC opinion. > > Paul Cotton - comment, would like references to technologies that are > referenced in FAQ (e.g. TLS etc), also visible links for those that > print document. > > Question regarding REL - need reference to standard. > > Action for TC to review. > > 7. Adjournment > > [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wss/200603/msg00009.html > > =============================================== > Attendance > > First Last Name Company > > Abbie Barbir Nortel Networks Limited* > Carolina Canales-Valenzuela Ericsson* > Symon Chang Blue Titan Software* > Kefeng Chen GeoTrust, Inc.* > Paul Cotton Microsoft Corporation* > Thomas DeMartini ContentGuard* > Don Flinn* Individual > Ben Hammond RSA Security* > Frederic Hirsch Nokia Corporation* > Dana Kaufman Forum Systems, Inc.* > Rich Levinson Computer Associates* > John Linn RSA Security* > Hal Lockhart BEA Systems, Inc.* > Michael McIntosh IBM* > Prateek Mishra Oracle Corporation* > Ronald Monzillo Sun Microsystems* > Vamsi Motukuru Oracle Corporation* > Anthony Nadalin IBM* > Kojiro Nakayama Hitachi, Ltd.* > Irving Reid Hewlett-Packard* > Pete Wenzel Sun Microsystems* > Chris Kaler Microsoft Corporation* > Kelvin Lawrence IBM* > > Members > Kefeng Chen GeoTrust, Inc.* > Kate Cherry Lockheed Martin* > Phillip Hallam-Baker VeriSign * > Will Raymond Tibco Software Inc.* > Greg Whitehead Hewlett-Packard* > > Lost Status > Toshihir Nishimura, Fujitsu Limited > Denis Pilipchuk BEA Systems, Inc. > Ron Williams IBM* > > Regained Status > Kate Cherry Lockheed Martin* > Phillip Hallam-Baker VeriSign * > Greg Whitehead Hewlett-Packard* > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. 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