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Subject: [xacml] [schema] list of issues for sub-committee discussion on 26July 2002


Colleagues,

I have marked some of these "CLOSED unless someone objects".
These either seem obvious typos, or else received only positive
comments on the list.  I suggest we start with those, then pick
up with #40, which is where we left off Monday (modulo CLOSED
unless someone objects).  Finally, we can cycle back to the
contentious issues we were unable to resolve on Monday.

-Anne

Title:   XACML schema issues
Author:  Anne Anderson
Version: 1.19, 02/07/25 (yy/mm/dd)
Source:  /net/labeast.east/files2/east/info/projects/isrg/xacml/docs/SCCS/s.SchemaIssues.txt

Next schema subcommittee meeting: Friday 26 July 2002, usual time
    (10am-12 EDT).
New schemas, version 16a:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00141.html

ISSUES:

34. [Michiharu] XPath Subset
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00066.html

    Complexity, especially when namespace must be specified.  For
    simple XPATH, context schema must be flattened.  How to limit
    XPATH if using a general-purpose library.  Check in policy
    authoring tool.  Context can use any XPATH expression, but
    policy is limited.  Could XPATH evaluation be done on the
    requester side, with just the extracted elements be handed to
    the PDP?  Should context be designed without any attributes,
    in order to make XPATH simpler (just element /)?

    OPEN: May want to consider 45 first (simpler
    AttributeDesignator without XPATH)

36. [Anne] attribute references and indeterminate results
    Long, verbose, religious, tedious thread starts with:
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00071.html

    Some sub-issues and options

    Order of evaluation
    a. In what order MUST arguments be evaluated
       1. Depends on the function: e.g. "or" vs. "orderedOr"
       2. Always implementation-dependent unless function
          specifies an order
       3. Always implementation-dependent
    b. MUST all arguments be evaluated?
       1. Yes
       2. No, if a result can be returned without evaluating all
       3. No, but regardless of order of evaluation, an error or
          missing information causes an exception
    c. MAY all arguments be evaluated (for purpose of reporting
       errors or unavailable information), even if not required
       to reach a function result?
       1. Yes
       2. No

    Operational errors
    a. Reporting of errors obtained while evaluating a request by PDP
       1. Reporting is optional
       2. Reporting is mandatory
       3. Reporting is not allowed
    b. Does an operational error
       1. Generate an exception that by-passes further evaluation
       2. Cause an error that is processed by the function
    c. What is the Response returned when an operational error occurs?
       1. Response value of INDETERMINATE
       2. Depends on the Function: value, INDETERMINATE
       2. Depends on Combining Algorithm: PERMIT, DENY, or INDETERMINATE
       3. New Response value of ERROR
    d. If operational errors are reported, how is the type of
       error reported?
       1. Reported via Simon's Status element in response

    Missing information
    a. Can a function ignore missing information if the function's
       semantics allow it to be evaluated without that
       information?
       1. Yes: e.g. OR(missing, true, false) can return true
       2. No: missing information generates an exception that
          by-passes further evaluation
    b. Can a function return INDETERMINATE?
       1. Yes: e.g. OR(missing, false, false) can return
          INDETERMINATE, since it MIGHT be true if "missing" were
          available.
       2. No: missing information generates an exception that is
          handled by the most immediate enclosing Combining
          Algorithm
       3. No: missing information must be translated into one of
          the values of the datatype that the function returns.
          Function semantics must specify what this is.
    c. How does a Combining Algorithm handle a Rule, etc. that
          returns INDETERMINATE?
       1. Pass up INDETERMINATE to next higher layer, eventually
          to the Response
       2. Specify via algorithm description how INDETERMINATE is
          handled.  E.g. Deny-Overrides maps INDETERMINATE to
          DENY.
    d. Must all information be supplied by the PEP?
       1. Yes.  Anything not in Request document supplied by PEP
          is INDETERMINATE.  XACML Request treated as physical
          document.
       2. No.  PDP MAY retrieve information not supplied by PEP.
          XACML Request treated as "notional" document.

    OPEN: 

37. [Michiharu] Use of XPath with namespaces.
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00056.html

    Namespace URI functions and Global Name functions.  Another
    option: namespace prefix in the XPATH expression, but this
    needs some assumptions on the target document.

    May want to consider #45 (AttributeDesignator without XPATH)
    first.

    OPEN: 

38. [Daniel] Split non-null-set-intersection function
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00076.html [1)]
    [Tim] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00077.html

    Split non-null-set-intersection into intersection(list, list)
    - returning xs:list and non_null(list), returning boolean.

    CLOSED unless someone objects.

39. [Daniel] Add floor(decimal)
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00076.html [2)]
    [Tim] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00077.html

    In addition to round(decimal), floor(decimal) is probably
    necessary

    [Tim] "function:integer" was intended to serve as floor(decimal).

    CLOSED unless someone objects: add round(decimal), use
    function:integer as floor(decimal).

40. [Anne] Change XACML "Request" to "Query"?
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00078.html [1.]
    [Tim] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00079.html
    [Daniel] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00080.html

    Eve Maler suggests we change the name of "Request" to "Query"
    to conform to SAML usage.

    OPEN:

41. [Anne] Is a "notional" XML document for Request a good idea?
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00078.html [2.]
    [Daniel] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00080.html

    OPEN:

42. [Anne] ConditionType and ConditionIdType
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00081.html

    What should we use for ConditionIdType when the ConditionType
    is an Attribute or AttributeDesignator?

    Options:
    1. function:true (conflicts with proposed function:true to
       ALWAYS return true for use with "any" matches in Target)
    2. Use function:alwaysTrue for Target "any" matches

    OPEN:

43. [Simon] What are the semantics of multiple subjects in a
    Request?
    [Anne]http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00093.html

    CLOSED unless anyone objects.

44. [Simon] Schema for advice
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00126.html

    CLOSED unless anyone objects.

45. [All] Can AttributeDesignator be simpler than XPATH?
    [Anne] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00095.html
    [Simon] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00130.html
    [Michiharu] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00131.html

    OPEN:

46. [Anne]Replace saml:AssertionType with xacml:AssertionType
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00097.html

    CLOSED unless anyone objects.

47. [Anne]Which date and time functions are mandatory for 1.0?
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00116.html
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00153.html
    [Michiharu] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00128.html

    Options:
    1. Any function that takes or returns a duration data type
       (yearMonthDuration, dayTimeDuration) is not mandatory).
    2. Any function that requires converting a date into a new
       date (such as by addition or subtraction of a duration) is
       not mandatory.  Any function that requires computing a
       duration by subtracting two dates is not mandatory

    OPEN: 

48. [Anne] Reducing number of functions for 1.0
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00118.html

    CLOSED unless anyone wants to propose specific changes to
    this list.

49. [Michiharu] Which regular expression definition to use?
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00129.html
    [Anne]http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200204/msg00132.html

    Options:
    1. Use definitions specified in XML Schema part 2: Datatypes,
       Appendix F Regular Expressions. (Bill says same as perl)
    2. Basic regular expressions (BRE) as defined in POSIX
       specification 2:
       http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xbd/re.html#tag_007_003
    3. Extended regular expressions (ERE) as defined in POSIX
       specification 2 (these add an "or" metacharacter so you
       can match on one of multiple separate regular expressions)
       http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xbd/re.html#tag_007_003

    OPEN:

50. [Anne] Need xacml:dayTimeDuration and xacml:yearMonthDuration?
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00133.html

    XML Schema Datatypes document mentions restricting Duration
    to dayTime or yearMonth, but does not actually specify such
    restrictions.  So do we need to define them within XACML?

    OPEN: 

51. [Michiharu] XML Access Control Use Case
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200207/msg00132.html

    Is this a schema issue per se?

    OPEN:

52. [John Howard]Support OR in Target
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml-comment/200207/msg00000.html

    Supporting OR in Target, either explicitly or implicitly,
    would make merging Targets easier.

    OPEN:



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