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Subject: [xacml] XACML August 22, 2002 Minutes
XACML Conference CallDate: Time: Tel: 512-225-3050 Access Code: 65998 SummaryThe committee reviewed the open action items and voted to close the resolved issues from the Issues List. It was agreed upon that the SAML profile should be a separate, normative document. There have been numerous change lists posted to the mailing list and we discussed how to resolve these. A formal issues list will be put together by Anne based on these postings and they will be discussed and hopefully resolved on Monday. Meanwhile, Tim will get a version 17 spec out containing general document edits by Tuesday. There was also discussion on the wording in the charter requiring all input and output be SAML compliant and new text will be proposed and voted on to replace that section of the charter that clarifies our SAML position. Action Items
VotesVote to separate SAML
profile out into separate document passed Vote to approve minutes of
8/15 meeting passed Vote to change wording of
charter tabled while wording is revised by Hal Proposed Agenda: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200208/msg00045.html 10:20 - 10:50 Discussion of v0.16 change requests (Tim) Roll Call Hal Lockhart, Entegrity Tim Moses, Entrust Don Flinn, Michiharu Kudoh, IBM Simon Godik, Overxeer Polar Humenn, Self Anne Anderson, Sun Microsystems Raw Minutes (taken by Submit items to Tim for v16 as specified in
these minutes Complete. Don to post threats for security and privacy
text by Tuesday 8/20 Complete. Don suggests to
add to end of S&P section like SAML did. Anne and TC will look at XACML extensibility points sections again and decide if needs to be revised Complete. Anne sent out a revised section Bill update UML diagrams by Friday 8/17 Complete Michiharu to provide XPATH usage examples Have not completed. Asked what section it belongs in? Suggestions of attribute selection or examples section. Agreement is the examples section and to keep it as small as possible. Will complete and submit it by end of day Friday (8/23) Michiharu to convert XSLT to minimal for used
for conformance cases Have not completed because lower priority.
Michiharu also has a proposal to reorganize section 7 and move XSLT template to
appendix section that discusses SAML. This would essentially eliminate section
7 unless we needed to say something about digital signatures (the other
profile). Another suggestion to make SAML profile a separate document. Removes any confusion about
stability of XACML due to extensions requested of SAML. Vote to separate SAML profile out into
separate document Simon will publish 16g schema with changes voted on during call Complete Tim will publish v16 spec Friday 8/16 Complete [Anne, Some was waiting on Daniel and Polar to complete functions. Anne suggests remove description of test suite and just state it is available. Test suite is an aid to developers who wish to attest to conforming to XACML. It is not required and Simon feels language should be made clearer to communicate that. Wording says that it is required for attestation of successfully using but not for conformance. Test suite is not as broad as conformance table. Attesting of successful use means you are passing the test suite. Conformance is determined independently. Hal suggests it should be the other way around. Anne said we want to avoid it seeming like a branding program. Other committees have not been concerned about interoperability or completeness in determining attesting of successfully using. Are the three implementers going to implement the complete mandatory sections? Propose posting proposed solutions to list and table until next TC call. Tim has ironed out inconsistencies he found in document. There has been a lot of discussion on the mail list. How to include that? Could cut and paste from mail list and add with change bars. Another possibility is to get 2-3 people together to hammer out next version as a small group. Expect we need at least two more versions. Some of the reviewers have divided there changes into simple editing and inconsistencies and the more controversial change lists. Should we consolidate them into an issues list to be discussed and voted on. Anne volunteers to pull out outstanding change requests from current mailing list submissions and create an initial issues document immediately following this meeting. Tim will incorporate the editorial/non-controversial issues into the spec v17 by Tuesday. Discussion will happen on Monday's call. Will decide Monday if another call is needed before next Thursday. Wording refers to SAML conformance for inputs and outputs. We do provide a transformation for SAML so this should satisfy the point. Charter states that all inputs Replace last paragraph of charter with: An XACML PDP must be capable of accepting SAML conformant inputs and producing SAML conformant outputs. Don't want to require PDP to pass SAML conformance test cases. It should be a constraint on the specification, not the PDP itself. Hal volunteered to wordsmith a proposal. Motion to vote, but tabled in favor of new wording. Committee specification by 9/1 Sept - Nov review specification and allow implementations to proceed. Make any changes as reviewed by committee if they come up. Suggestion to open spec for public review for a couple weeks. Suggestion to get tutorial information out in non-normative document first aka the primer that Hal and Konstantin were chartered with. Submit on December 1 (unless Oasis changes rules of submission to allow earlier) |
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