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Subject: RE: [xacml] Notes for the call: Proposed Agenda, Sept. 19 Concal l...
It is possible I will have to miss the call. I wanted to submit a vote on Funciton 0.9/0.11 additions - I want to ask you to review my posts for the details. I am opposed to the inclusion of "higher-order" functions into the spec until the semantics of the function extension point is clarified. 1) There was no use case presented that requires such addition. None. 2) While <Match> restrictions, as we discussed with Polar today, do solve the issue with suitability of Match for indexing - it is not even needed, if we do not specify the syntax that causes the need for this written restrictions 3) Quting Polar: "Huh? From inside the extension function you can do what ever you want. It's your ball game." I very much disagree that we should just drop the ball on trying to specify a useful portable semantics and definitions for extensions. Any language is as useful as its libraries. 4) If we decide to use "map" functions with return type specified by one of its argument, we may just as well allow simple overloading of function names based on the type of its argument. Then - specifying comparison operator to be overloaded, in the same way, for bag arguments will eliminate the need for the additions (if there was any). While I understand that many do not care about this area - in my opnion it is a deciding factor in XACML usability. Regards, Daniel 10:00-10:05 Roll Call and Agenda Review 10:05-10:10 Vote to accept minutes of September 12 concall http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200209/msg000 <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200209/msg000> 90.html 10:10-10:15 Review of Action Items (see 9/12 minutes) 10:15-10:30 Discussion (and vote?) on the Functions 0.9 draft (Polar, Daniel) 10:30-10:40 Discussion (and vote?) on remaining v0.16 technical change requests (all) 10:40-10:50 XACML Primer discussion (Konstantin, Hal) 10:50-10:55 Discussion of XACML token submission for WSS (Tim, Carlisle) 10:55-11:00 Discussion of schedule for Committee Spec (Carlisle)
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