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Subject: Re: [xacml] minutes for August 7, 2003






I think that the following sentence

"It came up that Seth is co-author of a paper covering XACML usage
experience which has been submitted to the ACM conference on Computer
Communication Security to be held Oct 21st."

might be

"It came up that Seth is co-author of a paper covering XACML usage
experience which has been submitted to the XML Security workshop
to be held Oct 31st in Washington D.C."

For your information, ACM workshop on XML Security focuses on
security features with regard to XML (including XML DSig, XML
Encryption, XACML, etc.). The workshop will be held in conjunction
with ACM CCS 2003 (Computer and Communication Security).
I have received several interesting papers discussing about XACML.
We are now in the process of reviewing the submitted papers.
Official Web site:
http://www.acm.org/sigs/sigsac/ccs/CCS2003/XMLSec2003.html

Thank you.
Michiharu Kudo


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Members:


Hal Lockhart


Daniel Engovatov


Tim Moses


Simon Godik


Tony Nadalin


Michiharu Kudo


Frank Siebenlist


Steve Crocker (scribe)





Non-voting members:


Ed Coin


Seth Proctor





Hal:


Quorum is reached.





Minutes from last meeting were not published, probably not recorded.


Hal will reconstruct minutes from memory and submit for the next


meeting.





Adjenda for the meeting:


        The WSPL spec and voting it as a committee spec;


        Getting 1.1 finalized as a committe spec;


        Discuss need for a F2F prior to getting deeply into 2.0;


        Review 2.0 work items.





Item: Voting on the WSPL Spec as a committe spec.





Hal said the WSPL spec has been available for review.  Tim said the


original plan targeted a vote in Sept.  We currently don't have


profile for WSPL 2.  Tim wants to pospone any voting action on the


spec until Sept 18th to which Hal agreed.





Item: closing 1.1 out





Simon said the comments on 1.1 were made on things such as


missspellings, an example attribute value, updated committe members


list.  Hal wants to see it in final form, before the vote.  Simon will


send Hal the word doc who will then generate a pdf file (Hal


recommends www.pdf995.com for their free Word print driver which


generates a pdf file) and post it for a final vote as


a committe spec.





Item: Proposal to SAML for an authorization type that would accomodate


      an XACML request.





Since the Open Grid Services Architecture (OGSA) security


infrastructure has a similar proposal for SAML, the idea is to bring


them in line and make a joint proposal to SAML.  SAML face to face


will be in early Sept. so we want to get that proposal ready before


then.  We'll use the Aug 21 meeting to focus on that.  It will be an


abbreviated business meeting on 21st, then we'll spend rest of the


time and perhaps more to the SAML proposal.





Item: XACML face-to-face in October





It was agreed there is a need for a face-to-face.  Possible


conflicting conferences are the Global Grid Forum (Oct 5-9).  Hal took


an action item to generate ballots for possible times (2,3,4th weeks


in oct) and places (east or west coast).








Item: Step through the current list of 2.0 work items published in


      Anne's email of Aug 1.





The idea was to update the list and get champions for the items.  In


the end, it was mainly Hal going over the list since there wasn't a


great deal of open discussion today.





Simon stated he cannot do the editing for the 2.0 spec.


Hal said we'll need 2 people to volunteer for the editing job.





The methodology for getting 1.0 out worked well, which included a


deadline for when each item would be well specified, and a deadline


for getting to general agreement on the approach to an item or more


prefereably the general text of the solution.





Hal stepped through Anne's email of 8/1/03 briefly reviewing each item:


A few comments made along the way that were not in Anne's email:


1. grid requirements:


        includes SAML 2.0 proposal and changes to XACML


        Frank: has exchanged email w/ Anne & Jim listing requirements


               and features wanted.


        Hal: send a summary so we all can see it.


        Frank volunteered to be the champion for item 1.


2. Location information:


        This item is related to schema for function declarations


        (item 24) which Daniel is interested in.


19. Rules as administrative units:


        This seems to conflict with the CORBA model, but ebxml people


        want it.








It came up that Seth is co-author of a paper covering XACML usage


experience which has been submitted to the ACM conference on Computer


Communication Security to be held Oct 21st.  Michiharu is program


chair for the conference.  Seth will submit a copy of the paper so we


can get an advance look at it and incorporate the experience into our


direction for 2.0.





Hal prompted people to submit any new work items for 2.0, or to submit


any use cases supporting a position (one way or another) on a work


item.








Discussion ended.





Meeting was adjorned.


Next week is the focus group.


Regular meeting is in 2 weeks. It will have a short adjenda and then


the meeting will move on to the joint XACML and OGSA proposal to SAML.





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