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Subject: Re: [xacml] Multiple Decison Request Proposal


Hi Erik, Hal, and TC,

There have been a lot of emails on this issue so far, but I think we are at the point where all the ambiguities and potential missing pieces have been accounted for, so I will try to summarize where I think the proposal currently stands.

First of all here are some reference emails that have examples that show different aspects of the proposed solution:
Based on the analysis that has been done, I have a few recommendations that, at least to me, appear to be important enough to itemize as suggestions for the specifications.

For the 3.0 Core spec:
  1. It became inferentially apparent that a fundamental "rule" is that a Request context that is processed by the PDP must have at most 1 <Attributes> element with a specific Category. I recommend that this be explicitly stated in section 5.35 in the description of the <Attributes> [One to Many] element. What is there now is not unambiguous in this regard, and I recommend it be tightened up.
  2. Similarly, I think explicit text should be in Section 5.37 for the Category [Required] description. i.e. specify that while multiple <Attributes> elements with the same Category are allowed in the Request element, that for the purpose of making an authorization decision, only one <Attributes> element per Category is allowed.
  3. Section 5.39 under explanation of IncludeInResult [Default false] I recommend that when included in Result the Attribute will be parented by its <Attributes w @Category> element. Also if multiple <Attribute> elements within one Category are tagged, then they will share the parent.
  4. Section 5.41 under explanation of <Attributes> element, I recommend that it be explicitly stated that there will be one <Attributes> element for each @Category in the Request that contained an @IncludeInResult.
For the 3.0 Multi-Decision spec:

  1. I recommend that at least for the multi-Attributes @Category mechanism that a clear explanation be included that without DecisionLists, that there is an inferential n-dimensional cross-product applied, where n is the number of @Categories that  have multiple <Attributes> elements within the Request. So, for example if there are 3 Category attrs, say cat1, cat2, cat3 that occur in multiple <Attributes> elements, for example let's say there are 4 <Attributes> elements w cat1, 4 with cat2, and 3 w cat3, then there will inferentially be 4x4x3 = 48 individual Requests generated to the PDP, each of which will have a Result element in the Response. It would also be worth noting that if there are additional single element Category attrs, say cat4, cat5, and cat6, that the <Attributes> element for each of those Category attrs will be evaluated in all 48 decisions. i.e. all 48 decisions will be based on cat1,cat2,cat3,cat4,cat5,cat6, where 4,5,6 remain constant thru the process and 1,2,3 are incremented as if to visit every cell in a 4x4x3 3-dimensional matrix in this particular example.
  2. I recommend that the DecisionLists mechanism be introduced as an augmentation to the n-dimesional matrix in 1 above. i.e. given the 48 decisions above, I think that DecisionLists can be used to pare down the list so that the full n-dimensional cross product does not get evaluated. i.e. The DecisionLists would override the inferential processing if they were present.
    • For example, if we really didn't want the 4x4 portion above but were really interested in 2 2x2 portions, there could be 2 DecisionLists up front that contained the following elements:
      • cat11,cat12,cat21,cat22,cat31,cat32,cat33,cat4,cat5,cat6
      • cat33,cat34,cat43,cat44,cat31,cat32,cat33,cat4,cat5,cat6
    • Each of the above DecisionLists would produce 2x2x3 = 12 results for a total of 24 results.
    • i.e. the suggestion is that the presence of DecisionLists simply override the inferential multiple effect of the <Attributes> elements themselves and transfer the inferential effect to the multiple category instances w same category to within each list.
    • i.e. the presence of the DecisionLists would effectively say: regard the actual <Attributes> elements as a pool of referencable entities and process the request as if multiple Request elements had come in with <Attributes> elements listed in the DecisionList, and process inferentially on that basis. Everything would be returned in a single response.
  3. The only lingering "annoyance" is that the DecisionLists address the <Attributes> elements by the xml:id, whereas within the inferential processing we need to reference for correlation purposes based on an internal IncludeInResult attribute. This is not a show-stopper of any sort, but it does appear that there are 2 mechanisms effectively used to identify the same <Attributes> element. A couple of considerations:
    • It would seem that xml:id for <Attributes> elements that only had a single instance is more than is needed since one could theoretically simply identify these single instance elements by identifying their Category value.
    • It seems that what's needed for the DecisionLists that are going to use multiple <Attributes> elements with the same Category is something within the <Attributes> element that distinguishes it from the other <Attributes> elements of the same Category. This seems to be deja vu all over again (sic) wrt the analysis that left us with the "synthetic attributes" as the ultimate decider for those cases where nothing else would work
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200901/msg00049.html
    • Therefore, I am tentatively suggesting that a usable alternative to URI,xml:id might be @Category.value(index), where "index" would be the value of a synthetic attribute within the <Attributes @Category> element with AttributeId="...multiple-request:unique-id".
I believe everything above, is essentially pretty much identifying what has already been decided and putting it all in one place, at least wrt 3.0 Core spec, plus I think that comment 1 for multi-decision is simply stating what has already been agreed, comment 2 is some clarification on how DecisionLists could be viewed and used, and comment 3 admittedly is something "new" to address what appears to me to be a lingering "rough spot" in what has been decided so far.

Comments and suggestions are welcome.

    Thanks,
    Rich


Erik Rissanen wrote:
497988C9.3060000@axiomatics.com" type="cite">Hi Hal,

I just realized that the CorrelationId will not work, and we need the IncludeInResult.

The existing 2.0 multiple resource profile defines a few more modes of multiple requests than multiple <Resource> elements. For instance, it is possible to specify multiple request in the form of an xpath expression on the <ResourceContent>, where each node the xpath matches will generate an individual request. Like this for instance:

  2 <Request
  3       xmlns="urn:oasis:names:tc:xacml:2.0:context:schema:os"
  4       xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
  5       xmlns:md="http://www.medico.com/schemas/record"
  6       xmlns:xacml-context="urn:oasis:names:tc:xacml:2.0:context:schema:os"
  7       xsi:schemaLocation="urn:oasis:names:tc:xacml:2.0:context:schema:os
  8         access_control-xacml-2.0-context-schema-os.xsd">
  9     <Subject>
 10         <Attribute
 11               AttributeId="urn:oasis:names:tc:xacml:1.0:subject:subject-id"
 12               DataType="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">
 13             <AttributeValue>Julius Hibbert</AttributeValue>
 14         </Attribute>
 15     </Subject>
 16     <Resource>
 17         <ResourceContent>
 18                 <md:record>
 19                 <md:patient_info>
 20                     <md:name>Bart Simpson</md:name>
 21                     <md:age>60</md:age>
 22                     <md:sex>male</md:sex>
 23                     <md:health_insurance>123456</md:health_insurance>
 24                 </md:patient_info>
 25                 <md:diagnosis_info>
 26                     <md:diagnosis>
 27                         <md:item type="primary">Gastric Cancer</md:item>
 28                         <md:item type="secondary">Hyper tension</md:item>
 29                     </md:diagnosis>
 30                     <md:pathological_diagnosis>
 31                         <md:diagnosis>
 32                             <md:item type="primary">Well differentiated adeno carcinoma</md:item>
 33                         </md:diagnosis>
 34                         <md:date>2000-10-05</md:date>
 35                         <md:malignancy type="yes"/>
 36                     </md:pathological_diagnosis>
 37                 </md:diagnosis_info>                38             </md:record>
 39         </ResourceContent>
 40         <Attribute\r
 41               AttributeId="urn:oasis:names:tc:xacml:1.0:resource:resource-id"
 42               DataType="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">
 43             <AttributeValue>*[local-name()='Resource'][namespace-uri()='urn:oasis:names:tc:xacml:2.0:context:schema:os']/*[local-name()='ResourceContent'][namespace-uri()='urn:oasis:names:tc:xacml:2.0:context:schema:os']/*[local-name()='record'][namespace-uri()='http://www.medico.com/schemas/record']/*[local-name()='patient_info'][namespace-uri()='http://www.medico.com/schemas/record']/*[self::*[local-name()='name'][namespace-uri()='http://www.medico.com/schemas/record'] or self::*[local-name()='age'][namespace-uri()='http://www.medico.com/schemas/record']]/descendant-or-self::node()</AttributeValue>
 44         </Attribute>
 45         <Attribute
 46               AttributeId="urn:oasis:names:tc:xacml:1.0:resource:scope"
 47               DataType="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">
 48             <AttributeValue>XPath-expression</AttributeValue>
 49         </Attribute>
 50     </Resource>
 51     <Action>
 52         <Attribute
 53               AttributeId="urn:oasis:names:tc:xacml:1.0:action:action-id"
 54               DataType="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">
 55             <AttributeValue>read</AttributeValue>
 56         </Attribute>
 57     </Action><Environment/></Request>

From this request there will be multiple results, but there is only one <Resource> element. Each result will contain a specific ResourceId XML attribute for correlation purposes.

In the corresponding 3.0 multiple request, it will be necessary to use the IncludeInResult since there are not multiple Attribute elements, which could be used for correlation, even if they had a CorrelationId.

So I think we should drop the CorrelationId proposal, and if necessary, people will have to use a synthetic XACML attribute for correlation.

Best regards,
Erik


Hal Lockhart wrote:
As of today's meeting I believe we are down to deciding how to do correlation. The alternative previously proposed is to use the IncludeInResponse mechanism. This may involve submitting synthetic attributes, not referenced by policy, simply to correlate requests and decisions.

The new idea (at least to me) is to move my previously proposed XML Attribute - CorrelationID - to the <Attributes> element instead of having it in the <DecisionList> element.

This seems clearer to me, but others should express their opinions. The new scheme would look something like this:

<Request>

  <DecisionLists>

    <DecisionList>

        <ListReference URI="Sub1"/>

        <ListReference URI="Env"/>

        <ListReference URI="Res1"/>

        <ListReference URI="Act1"/>


    </DecisionList>


    <DecisionList>

        <ListReference URI="Sub1"/>

        <ListReference URI="Sub2"/>

        <ListReference URI="Env"/>

        <ListReference URI="Res2"/>

        <ListReference URI="Act2"/>

    </DecisionList>


    <DecisionList>

        <ListReference URI="Sub3"/>

        <ListReference URI="Env"/>

        <ListReference URI="Res1"/>

        <ListReference URI="Act2"/>

    </DecisionList>


    <DecisionList ... >
    ...

    </DecisionList>


  </DecisionLists>


    <Attributes Category="Access_Subject" XML:Id="Sub1" CorrelationId="FirstSubject">

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

    </Attributes>

    <Attributes Category="Intemediary_Subject" XML:Id="Sub2" CorrelationId="SecondSubject">

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

    </Attributes>


    <Attributes Category="Intemediary_Subject" XML:Id="Sub3" CorrelationId="ThirdSubject">

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

    </Attributes>

   <Attributes Category="Environment" XML:Id="Env">

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

    </Attributes>

    <Attributes Category="Resource" XML:Id="Res1" CorrelationId="FirstResource">

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

    </Attributes>


    <Attributes Category="Resource" XML:Id="Res2" CorrelationId="Secondresource">

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

    </Attributes>

    <Attributes Category="Action" XML:Id="Act1" CorrelationId="FirstAction">

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

    </Attributes>

    <Attributes Category="Action" XML:Id="Act2" CorrelationId="SecondAction">

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

      <Attribute>
      ...
      </Attribute>

    </Attributes>


...


</Request>


Hal


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