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Subject: Minutes for 8 October 2009 TC Meeting
Note: esp on issues below, I tried to capture all the details but may have missed a few, please request any corrections that you might find or be concerned about and I will fix - rich Minutes for 8 October 2009 TC Meeting: Time: 10:00 am EDT Tel: 513-241-0892 Access Code: 65998 NOTE: (see below) mtgs now weekly: next mtg 10/15 same time/tel 10:00 - 10:05 Roll Call & Approve Minutes Voting Members: 12 of 12 (100%) (used for quorum calculation) Erik Rissanen Paul Tyson Gareth Richards Vernon Murdoch Bill Parducci Rich Levinson Hal Lockhart Seth Proctor John Tolbert David Staggs Duane DeCouteau Anil Saldhana have quorum Non voting members: Prateek Mishra Dilli Arumugam Jan Herrmann (NOTE: voting status requires a member attendance at 2 consecutive mtgs, then member can vote at 3rd mtg; if miss 2 consecutive mtgs then member loses voting status and must regain thru above process) 24 September 2009 TC Meeting Minutes: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00089.html minutes approved 10:05 - 10:10 Administrivia Phone number on TC web page updated: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=xacml point here was that main page had been updated. There is separate issue updating the oasis schedule page XSPA: Call For Vote by company members to make Oasis Standard will be on Oct 16: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200910/msg00006.html vote will start on oct 16 New: Oasis raised Issues on: XACML Intellectual Property Control (IPC) profile emails exchanged w Hal, John - suggest 15 day extension discuss further at this tc mtg http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00108.html Plan is to go forward w public review New: Oasis raised Issues on: XACML v3.0 Export Compliance- US (EC-US) profile Version 1.0 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00107.html Plan is to go forward w public review CFP: W3C Workshop on Access Control: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00086.html reference above if interested W3C Workshop on Access Control Application Scenarios Call for Participation 17 and 18 November 2009 -- Luxembourg Proposal for Nov XACML Webinar from Dee Schur: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00098.html hal: will be focal point and coordinate w dee Updated public review issues list: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00096.html Proposals for weekly meetings to process issues: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00097.html hal: erik suggested weekly any objections? people agree its needed no objections will go to weekly notices Issues: New or updated since previous meeting: New: Reference to the XML spec http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200910/msg00008.html New: Argument order in new match functions http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00106.html #11 (updated) - strictness of xpath definition (has been extensive disc. recent email refs below annotated w some summary of content to let people know what's being discussed at hi level) hal: issue of breaking out web services rich: not in favor jan: wants additional discussion hal: put item aside for now erik: there is also multiple resource profile tied in Carried over from previous meeting: #3 - dynamic RequestContextPath http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00014.html #4 - generalized higher order functions http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00015.html #5 - reverse order in <Match> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00017.html #9 - xpath-node-match node type issue http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00018.html Erik: sep 11 email has more detail on proposed chg does not see it should be restricted resolved by sep 11 email on issue 9 #10 - denied access to internal nodes in hierarchy http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00019.html #12 - normative statement which allows anything http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/20009/msg00021.html rich: "alternative representation" defn needs to stay for now hal: set of inviolate rules for specific processing no change agreed yet #15 - ancestor attributes of XML nodes http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00022.html #16 - offset for attribute selector http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00023.html #17 - internal optimization http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00024.html MR lines 71-74 leave text alone for now and close issue #18 - redundant functionality in multiple profile http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00025.html #19 - types of descendants http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00026.html comment 3 in jan's july xacml-comment email jan: can't do descendant w xpath defer for further discussion #20 - multiple node identities http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00027.html close w/o action #22 - profile identifier http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00028.html hal: impl announces capabilities thru these URIs jan: note w purpose of attr might be helpful hal: is it in conformance paul: also was concerned about the defns jan: maybe that id is saying using specific part of profile erik: add that uri is used as metadata hal: move section 5 earlier; paul: useful for readability to have them in one place and in the sections themselves #23 - overloading of term "individual" http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00029.html paul: issue is identifying individual requests jan: ind req used for 2 things: if mult req els, mult rsrcs rich: agrees 2 meanings for ind req, need more specificity hal: leave for now #24 - usefulness of multiple <Attributes> elements http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00030.html multiple individual requests in single global request hal: close w no change #25 - meaning of "EntireHierarchy" http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00031.html #26 - indeterminate in EntireHierarchy http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00032.html #10 from jan: hal: like a policy combining rule. defining fixed behavior is reasonable entire hierarchy: combining algorithm #27 - non-xml functionality in multiple profile http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00033.html #28 - PolicySet in RBAC profile http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00034.html #31 - acknowledgments http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00035.html Question re: urn:oasis:names:tc:xacml:1.0:resource:xpath http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00012.html Naming consistency http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00051.html Substring functions http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00052.html Delegation/administration profile http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00063.html RDF exploration http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00000.html AttributeAssignmentExpression http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200908/msg00013.html Core Conformance http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200907/msg00022.html XACML Future Work http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200907/msg00026.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200907/msg00027.html relax-ng grammar for xacml http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200907/msg00002.html x.500 (new concerns on same issue from prev mtgs) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200907/msg00010.html -> action: hal suggests tc solicit proposals for addressing hier and multiple profiles; action is to those who want to submit proposals hal: f2f to address some of these issues rich: would be nice to have good dial in facility for participants who can't arrange the travel. meeting adjourned: 11:05 next meeting Thu 15-Oct-2009 - 10AM ET
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