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Subject: Minutes for 7 January 2010 TC Meeting
Time: 10:00 am EDT
Tel: 513-241-0892 Access Code: 65998
Minutes for 7 January 2010 TC Meeting:
"->" indicates generally some action needs to be taken
(not necessarily by name pointed to)
10:00 - 10:05 Roll Call & Approve Minutes:
Roll Call:
Erik Rissanen
Paul Tyson
Gareth Richards
Jan Herrmann
Bill Parducci
Rich Levinson
Hal Lockhart
Seth Proctor
John Tolbert
Dilli Arumugam
Members: 10 of 113 (8%)
Voting Members: 10 of 13 (76%) (used for quorum calculation)
have quorum
Approve Meeting Minutes and F2F notes, refs:
17 December 2009 TC Meeting
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00132.html
approved no objection
Still have to approve F2F notes:
F2F Dec 8-10, 2009: raw notes:
8 December 2009 F2F Day 1 Notes:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00066.html
9 December 2009 F2F Day 2 Notes:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00070.html
10 December 2009 F2F Day 3 Notes:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00075.html
approved no objection
10:05 - 10:20 Administrivia
acknowledgments: anyone on list who asks should be on.
bill: mary says acks must be current members
-> hal: list of people includes anyone - only couple people
really (ex. Anne) who did significant work on
current specs. - will talk to Mary to clarify
whether non-current tc members eligible
Mary posted guidelines from OASIS rules:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00013.html
schemas:
hal: distinction between schemas and docs; can't change the
schema file name - somewhere around cd-time froze name
of schema file
erik: namespace
hal: recent practice: can make changes to file content
hal: schema files - procedure in oasis - when contents are correct
then the name of schema file stays same as it moves thru
process. Don't change name of file to indicate process steps
as docs progress
erik: also imports need full urls
cross-references:
hal: need to symbolically identify cross-refs when we make motion
for approval.
erik: ex. ref to delegation
-> hal: need to specify which names in doc are designated cross-refs.
want docs to point to oasis std names of each other.
3.0 Document set status:
recent items of discussion (most recent email in each discussion ref'd):
Most recent docs uploaded:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00146.html
Summary of document status:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00016.html
acknowledgments: several members requested inclusion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00032.html
Mary posted guidelines from OASIS:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00013.html
"wd8 multi profile comments"
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00023.html
"The new combined decisions text"
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00120.html
hal: option to pull down to single result. 2 ways of combining
decision and requester specifies; option b only have one
decision defined by tc.
issue appears to resolved in wd8 for multi-decision combine
jan: is it text value of node?
paul: yes
erik: text value of element node
paul: yes
erik: it is content of node, not name of node
jan: possible issue w geo data types
erik: extensions define constructor node
jan: if you have selector it points to root to instantiate
data type
paul: sequence of nodes; somehow need to define constructor
to get to node you want to get.
jan: text doesn't appear consistent w discussion
expressing both cases in one: separating to base datatype
and extended datatype
paul: can have several nodes to create one object. question
is whether arg is list of nodes or single node
jan: multiple nodes should be multiple values
paul: want bag of values; how to distinguish between set of
points vs single polygon object
hal: sounds like there is agreement.
-> erik: some more editing needed on text
"review of the XACML 3.0 core draft 15" (a few comments discussed)
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00029.html
hal: have come to closure
"AttributeSelector description and functional requirements"
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00024.html
"Fixing examples" (delegation, rbac and privacy profiles)
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00017.html
-> hal: erik to fix
"PolicyIdentifierListType definition in wd-15 xsd"
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00002.html
hal: proposed simplification to take sequence out.
"wd15 core spec comments"
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00000.html
hal: editor accepted
Summary:
-> Erik: expects to post new set of drafts on Monday.
Submission of XACML 3.0 to ITU (additional discussion):
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00104.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00122.html
hal: this requires volunteer to do time consuming review work
w updated version of 2.0 spec that is errata-cized version
of 2.0; does not think doc can be done mechanically. Need
to have original doc, changes, and submit to ITUT
-> basically need an errata author - willing to take a couple
days or more to concentrate and get it done
NextLabs demo:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00031.html
hal: want to get past current docs before scheduling. when back
to bi-weekly post 3.0 (soon 2 or 3 mtgs from now) then
we will schedule
XSPA Approval announcement:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00130.html
10:20 - 11:00 Issues
issue list status spreadsheet (unchanged since Dec 15):
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00087.html
link to Dec 15 issues spreadsheet:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/xls00000.xls
Break the Glass policies (several emails prior to this one):
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00145.html
hal: personally thinks it can be done by profiling current spec
along the lines suggested by Seth;
as chair: no need to do anything in current round.
Summary comments on issues thru Dec 21:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00142.html
Other ref info:
RSA 2010 Conference & Exposition
OASIS is planning to host an interoperability demonstration area on
the show floor at the upcoming RSA 2010 Conference & Exposition.
1-5 March 2010 @ San Francisco, California
http://www.rsaconference.com/2010/usa/index.htm
Update on interop demo for RSA:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00119.html
hal: xacml tc not participating this time
Meeting adjourned 10:48
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