Minutes for January 21, 2010 TC Meeting

["Rich.Levinson" <rich.levinson@oracle.com>]

Minutes for January 21, 2010 TC Meeting:

Tel: 513-241-0892 Access Code: 65998

	NOTE: Starting next week mtgs will be biweekly
	 at 1PM ET.

10:00 - 10:05 Roll Call:

Erik Rissanen
Paul Tyson
Gareth Richards
Sridhar Muppidi
Bill Parducci
Rich Levinson
Hal Lockhart
Seth Proctor
John Tolbert

Voting Members: 9 of 14 (64%) (used for quorum calculation) 
 we have quorum
Individual Attendance	Members: 9 of 112 (8%) 
    
Approve Minutes:
 14 January 2010 TC Meeting
  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00043.html

   approved, no objection

Adminsitrivia

  V3 Next steps
   Follow-up from last week:
    People should have had time to review doc set and be prepared
	to vote on whether to advance to CS.

     Hal: People are ready to vote for CD
     Erik: spreadsheet up to date except couple f2f items
     Erik: diff since review in August, every spec is compared
	to previous; if take 2-3 drafts together all there
     Hal: scope of review now is just chgs since cd

  -> (from last week) is there admin prep needed?

     Hal: section 2.19 of cd process; cross references - may need
	to be enhanced:
	http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00039.html

** In xacml-3.0-core-spec-wd-16en.doc:
[Hier], [Multi], [XACMLAdmin]
** In xacml-3.0-administration-v1-spec-wd-27-en.doc:
[XACML]
** In xacml-3.0-dsig-v1-spec-wd-05-en.doc:
[XACML], [XACML-SAML]
** In xacml-3.0-hierarchical-v1-spec-wd-12-en.doc:
[MULTIPLE], [XACML]
** In xacml-3.0-multiple-v1-spec-wd-09-en.doc:
[Hierarchical], [XACML]
** In xacml-3.0-privacy-v1-spec-wd-06-en.doc:
[Hier]
** In xacml-3.0-rbac-v1-spec-wd-07-en.doc:
[XACML]
** In xacml-profile-saml2.0-v2-spec-wd-12-en.odt:
[ADMIN], [XACML3]

     hal: ok, above is current state and will be incorporated
	to release to tc-admin

  -> (from last week) conformance:
      "Erik will request an opinion from Mary as to whether
        the conformance sections of all the documents are 
	satisfactory."  Has this been done? 
    hal/erik: conf sections should be ok

	erik: move to go to committee draft
	sridhar: seconds
	hal: hears no objection:
	 motion passes

	bill: moves to go to 30 day review
	rich: seconds
	hal: hears no objections:
	 motion passes

  sridhar: RSA in early March has some interest in 3.0
  hal: unlikely to delay 3.0 prog, due to anything that comes out
	at RSA, so let's move ahead

  hal: would like to schedule NextLabs tools demo: best to
	devote entire meeting:
	talked about moving mtg to 1, every other week
	reason for current time was: people in far east
'	consensus 1PM ET; every other week
	will meet next week if NextLabs can do demo,
	 will be discretion if not
	want to keep on sched w next week as being a 2wk base

  general: is there some consistency about vendors doing
	presentations - demos, not "sales pitches"
  hal: demos of unique and interesting capabilities, not plain
	vanilla access control; but authoring tools, analysis
	tools, things that have evolved beyond the specs.
  hal: when members present they are already under agreement;
	outsiders less clear, but nothing of non-disclosure
	type should be presented.

Issues
  Determine what issues, if any, remain open for V3.

  From last week:
    "PDP advertising what its capabilities"
	any more to be said on that?
    hal: have agreement in principal that we will have a metadata
	 profile and gather identifiers/semantics

    "question was raised as to whether an implementation supporting
     the wire protocol, but not using an XACML compliant PDP, could 
     claim conformance "
    hal: personal: what says in conf of saml profile; it is 
	arguably reasonable to comply w decision req profile
	even if not using xacml pdp
	other views welcome: we will revisit as needed

 -> action item: erik: create cd version w headers

 -> meeting next week: Jan 28, 2010   1PM ET

	meeting adjourned: 10:37 AM ET