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Subject: Minutes for 17 June 2010 TC Meeting
Time: 13:00 EDT
Tel: 513-241-0892 Access Code: 65998
Minutes for 17 June 2010 TC Meeting:
13:00 - 13:05 Roll Call & Approve Minutes:
Roll Call:
Erik Rissanen
Paul Tyson Bell
Gareth Richards
Bill Parducci
Dilli Arumugam
Rich Levinson
Hal Lockhart
John Tolbert
David Staggs
Nao Itoi
non voting
Mike Davis, VA
we have quorum
Hal: agenda ok?
ok
Approve Minutes:
3 June 2010 TC Meeting
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00003.html
Hal: approve minutes: unanimous consent? yes
Administrivia
General FYI notices:
OASIS IDtrust Member Section Steering Committee Nominations Now Open
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00005.html
Hal: xacml may not be member, just fyi
Exclusive Discount for OASIS Members at Structure 2010
Cloud conference: June 23-24:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00002.html
Hal: above is self-explanatory
Spam has been regularly appearing on dev and users email lists:
(most messages since Mar 2010 are spam - has been reported but
no action yet - probably needs more vigorous escalation - note:
it also affects other TC dev groups)
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml-dev/
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml-users/
Rich: just for awareness; sites seem to be bogus and
just looking to collect papers.
XACML v3.0 - status
30-day Public Review ended Sunday, June 6,2010:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201005/msg00030.html
Hal: only bugs reported (below and):
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00011.html
Hal: should we go w specs as is or another round.
Erik: either way
John: would like to clean up
Hal: leaning toward clean up
Erik/Hal: both changes not substantial, but ...
Rich: RequestContextPath vs Path is new to 3.0, so thinks
desirable get the fix.
Hal: any objections to having Erik make the changes for
vote on next call?
no objections - will do that, i.e. the fixes will be made
bug reported in spec on Jun 9:
(in example, used old RequestContextPath instead of new Path)
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00004.html
Hal asks if easy fix:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00009.html
Erik: for new drafts: the big item, which is error prone is updating
the schema namespace; don't update to reflect the working draft
number.
Hal: Ludwig's chg is in the spec, but leaves the schema intact,
so that does not require chg.
IPR/Export:
Hal: prev asked vote on export control, but got pushback
because doc chg'd since last pub rev, should have vote
to say chgs not substantive.
Hal: formula we want to follow is in updated version of april 8
minutes:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201004/msg00012.html
procedure is about what was done w designated cross refs.
XACML Intellectual Property Control (IPC) Profile
Version 1.0
Committee Draft 2
17 June 2010
John makes a motion to advance the following document (IPC Profile)
from a working draft an official Committee Draft:
IPC Profile email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00017.html
IPC Profile doc details:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=38328
IPC Profile doc:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/38328/xacml-3.0-ipc-v1-spec-cd-02-en.doc
It is noted that the doc contains no substantive changes since
the last public review.
It is also noted that the doc contains a designated cross reference:
as defined in TC Process section 2.19. It is understood that this
may delay the date the spec reaches approved status.
The designated cross-reference is:
eXtensible Access Control Markup Language (XACML) Version 3.0 Committee Draft 03
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37088/xacml-3.0-core-spec-cd-03-en.zip
It is expected to become an OASIS Standard by September 30, 2010.
Paul seconds the motion.
Hal any objections to unanimous consent?
none heard:
*** Motion is approved to move IPC Profile to Committee Draft.
John: makes a motion for the IPC Profile document above that
was just approved as a CD to be advanced to a Committee
Specification (CS), by requesting TC-Admin to hold a ballot
for approving the IPC Profile as a Committee Specification.
Paul seconds the motion.
Hal any objections to unanimous consent?
none heard:
*** Motion is approved to request TC Admin to hold a TC Ballot
to advance the IPC Profile to Committee Specification.
XACML 3.0 Export Compliance-US (EC-US) Profile Version 1.0
Committee Draft 03
17 June 2010
Paul: makes a motion to advance the following document (IPC Profile)
from a working draft an official Committee Draft:
Export Control Profile email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00016.html
Export Control Profile doc details:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=38326
Export Control Profile doc:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/38326/xacml-3.0-ec-us-v1-spec-cd-03-en.doc
It is noted that the doc contains no substantive changes since
the last public review.
It is also noted that the doc contains a designated cross reference:
as defined in TC Process section 2.19. It is understood that this
may delay the date the spec reaches approved status.
The designated cross-reference is:
eXtensible Access Control Markup Language (XACML) Version 3.0 Committee Draft 03
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37088/xacml-3.0-core-spec-cd-03-en.zip
It is expected to become an OASIS Standard by September 30, 2010.
John seconds the motion.
Hal any objections to unanimous consent?
none heard:
*** Motion is approved to move Export Control Profile to Committee Draft.
Paul: makes a motion for the Export Control Profile document above that
was just approved as a CD to be advanced to a Committee
Specification (CS), by requesting TC-Admin to hold a ballot
for approving the Export Control Profile as a Committee Specification.
John seconds the motion.
Hal any objections to unanimous consent?
none heard:
*** Motion is approved to request TC Admin to hold a TC Ballot
to advance the Export Control Profile to Committee Specification.
Hal: date of docs needs to chg to today's date, then put docs
in the same place.
Issues/Topics
Possible post-3.0 issue on Target/Category semantics (sections 3.3.1.1
and 5.6 have specific issues, while overall use of the terms:
"issuer", "attributes", "category", "entity" may need some
general clarification): comments from Rich, Erik
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00008.html
Paul: submitted question on this some time back
Erik: is there specific change proposal?
Hal: today we are trying to scope the problem, but let's
ask: is the text broken?
Paul: although when wording clarified, problem was
transitioning to 3.0 target, things were expressive
Hal: in the interim, let's try to disambiguate; as an interim
might make sense to drafting.
Paul: would be desirable to define formal semantics of this
esp wrt rule languages that are coming out, then run into
issues.
Rich: start by proposing alternatives, before doing details
on alternatives
Other topics:
1. David: looking at ontology decision point
Hal: is that visible to people?
David: nothing ready for public consumption, if anyone has
ideas how ontology can be useful?
Hal: if could post to list would be helpful
2. David: HHS will have demo; transcript will be on web in
couple days.
Hal: Next meeting 2 weeks.
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