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Subject: Minutes for 17 June 2010 TC Meeting - UPDATED
Time: 13:00 EDT
Tel: 513-241-0892 Access Code: 65998
Minutes for 17 June 2010 TC Meeting:
13:00 - 13:05 Roll Call & Approve Minutes:
Roll Call:
Erik Rissanen
Paul Tyson Bell
Gareth Richards
Bill Parducci
Dilli Arumugam
Rich Levinson
Hal Lockhart
John Tolbert
David Staggs
Nao Itoi
Tony Nadalin
non voting
Mike Davis, VA
we have quorum
Hal: agenda ok?
ok
Approve Minutes:
3 June 2010 TC Meeting
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00003.html
Hal: approve minutes: unanimous consent? yes
Administrivia
General FYI notices:
OASIS IDtrust Member Section Steering Committee Nominations Now Open
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00005.html
Hal: xacml may not be member, just fyi
Exclusive Discount for OASIS Members at Structure 2010
Cloud conference: June 23-24:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00002.html
Hal: above is self-explanatory
Spam has been regularly appearing on dev and users email lists:
(most messages since Mar 2010 are spam - has been reported but
no action yet - probably needs more vigorous escalation - note:
it also affects other TC dev groups)
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml-dev/
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml-users/
Rich: just for awareness; sites seem to be bogus and
just looking to collect papers.
XACML v3.0 - status
30-day Public Review ended Sunday, June 6,2010:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201005/msg00030.html
Hal: only bugs reported (below and):
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00011.html
Hal: should we go w specs as is or another round.
Erik: either way
John: would like to clean up
Hal: leaning toward clean up
Erik/Hal: both changes not substantial, but ...
Rich: RequestContextPath vs Path is new to 3.0, so thinks
desirable get the fix.
Hal: any objections to having Erik make the changes for
vote on next call?
no objections - will do that, i.e. the fixes will be made
bug reported in spec on Jun 9:
(in example, used old RequestContextPath instead of new Path)
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00004.html
Hal asks if easy fix:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00009.html
Erik: for new drafts: the big item, which is error prone is updating
the schema namespace; don't update to reflect the working draft
number.
Hal: Ludwig's chg is in the spec, but leaves the schema intact,
so that does not require chg.
IPR/Export:
Hal: prev asked vote on export control, but got pushback
because doc chg'd since last pub rev, should have vote
to say chgs not substantive.
Hal: formula we want to follow is in updated version of april 8
minutes:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201004/msg00012.html
procedure is about what was done w designated cross refs.
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XACML Intellectual Property Control (IPC) Profile
Version 1.0
Committee Draft 2
17 June 2010
John makes a motion to advance the following document (IPC Profile)
from a working draft an official Committee Draft:
IPC Profile email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00017.html
IPC Profile doc details:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=38328
IPC Profile doc:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/38328/xacml-3.0-ipc-v1-spec-cd-02-en.doc
It is noted that the doc contains no substantive changes since
the last public review.
It is also noted that the doc contains a designated cross reference:
as defined in TC Process section 2.19. It is understood that this
may delay the date the spec reaches approved status.
The designated cross-reference is:
eXtensible Access Control Markup Language (XACML) Version 3.0 Committee Draft 03
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37088/xacml-3.0-core-spec-cd-03-en.zip
It is expected to become an OASIS Standard by September 30, 2010.
Paul seconds the motion.
Hal any objections to unanimous consent?
none heard:
*** Motion is approved to move IPC Profile to Committee Draft.
John: makes a motion for the IPC Profile document above that
was just approved as a CD to be advanced to a Committee
Specification (CS), by requesting TC-Admin to hold a ballot
for approving the IPC Profile as a Committee Specification.
Paul seconds the motion.
Hal any objections to unanimous consent?
none heard:
*** Motion is approved to request TC Admin to hold a TC Ballot
to advance the IPC Profile to Committee Specification.
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XACML 3.0 Export Compliance-US (EC-US) Profile Version 1.0
Committee Draft 03
17 June 2010
Paul: makes a motion to advance the following document (EC-US Profile)
from a working draft an official Committee Draft:
Export Compliance-US Profile email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00016.html
Export Compliance-US Profile doc details:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=38326
Export Compliance-US Profile doc:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/38326/xacml-3.0-ec-us-v1-spec-cd-03-en.doc
It is noted that the doc contains no substantive changes since
the last public review.
It is also noted that the doc contains a designated cross reference:
as defined in TC Process section 2.19. It is understood that this
may delay the date the spec reaches approved status.
The designated cross-reference is:
eXtensible Access Control Markup Language (XACML) Version 3.0 Committee Draft 03
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37088/xacml-3.0-core-spec-cd-03-en.zip
It is expected to become an OASIS Standard by September 30, 2010.
John seconds the motion.
Hal any objections to unanimous consent?
none heard:
*** Motion is approved to move EC-US Profile to Committee Draft.
Paul: makes a motion for the EC-US Profile document above that
was just approved as a CD to be advanced to a Committee
Specification (CS), by requesting TC-Admin to hold a ballot
for approving the EC-US Profile as a Committee Specification.
John seconds the motion.
Hal any objections to unanimous consent?
none heard:
*** Motion is approved to request TC Admin to hold a TC Ballot
to advance the EC-US Profile to Committee Specification.
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Hal: date of docs needs to chg to today's date, then put docs
in the same place.
Issues/Topics
Possible post-3.0 issue on Target/Category semantics (sections 3.3.1.1
and 5.6 have specific issues, while overall use of the terms:
"issuer", "attributes", "category", "entity" may need some
general clarification): comments from Rich, Erik
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00008.html
Paul: submitted question on this some time back
Erik: is there specific change proposal?
Hal: today we are trying to scope the problem, but let's
ask: is the text broken?
Paul: although when wording clarified, problem was
transitioning to 3.0 target, things were expressive
Hal: in the interim, let's try to disambiguate; as an interim
might make sense to drafting.
Paul: would be desirable to define formal semantics of this
esp wrt rule languages that are coming out, then run into
issues.
Rich: start by proposing alternatives, before doing details
on alternatives
Other topics:
1. David: looking at ontology decision point
Hal: is that visible to people?
David: nothing ready for public consumption, if anyone has
ideas how ontology can be useful?
Hal: if could post to list would be helpful
2. David: HHS will have demo; transcript will be on web in
couple days.
Hal: Next meeting 2 weeks.
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