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Subject: Minutes for 14 June 2012 TC Meeting
Time: 13:00 EDT Tel: 513-241-0892 Access Code: 65998 Minutes for 14 June 2012 TC Meeting: I. Roll Call Voting Crystal Hayes Rich Levinson Hal Lockhart Bill Parducci Erik Rissanen Remon Sinnema David Staggs Danny Thorpe Non-voting David Brossard Jean-Paul Quorum achieved: 80% per Oasis site. & Approve Minutes: 31 May 2012 TC Meeting https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00095.html updated: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00097.html updated minutes approved no objections II. Administrivia XACML V3.0 15-day Public Review comment from tc-admin: 2 uri's need update: directions included for enabling the updates to be permanent https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00098.html v3 Core still in Public Review some discussion as to whether tc-admin comments will require another public review - maybe not as the refs are intended to be -> updateable in some manner; erik will investigate XACML 3.0 Public review 04 - Feedback from TSCP https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00022.html Jean-Paul: reviewed the proposal he posted to the TC list -> hal: tc should review the proposal, as was rcvd shortly before mtg XACML 2 / 3.0 advancement at ITUT: actions to coordinate w BOA: abbie and radu have been taken ITU-T nothing more to say until core through oasis std process IETF - PLASMA TC voted that john/hal's response to plasma is official: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00041.html Hal posted plasma comments to plasma mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/plasma/current/msg00084.html Paul Tyson leaving TC due to sponsoring company withdrawal https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00010.html Paul's contributions will be missed: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00012.html paul: emailed parting comments (semantic web and natural lang rule sets): https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00025.html III. Issues Active on List XACML IPC WD-08 and CS-01 diff uploaded https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00008.html some questions as to whether above is cd or cs vote; john not here today to clarify Export Control (EC) xacml-3 0-ec-us-v1-0-spec-wd-04a-en uploaded https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00009.html REST Profile of XACML v3.0 Version 1.0, working draft 05 uploaded https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00103.html ray: tried for balance w admin and req/rsp hoping to keep the admin in the profile danny:must posted policies references be resolvable when they are posted; craig had some pushback on that; ray: spec'd that it is a may or may not. hal: thinks there are still issues like supporting outer saml wrapper; mentioned in earlier email that hal will ref. interface to policies as deployment "option" seems risky in terms of unintended consequences: i.e. whether policy change impacts current pdp behavior; hal: wants to see json/xml req/rsp go out the door, independent of admin ray: concerned that profile will not have much left w/o admin; hal: if goal is simplicity, then that is not a disadvantage danny: rest-api could have different contexts; not defining the repository but an api to get to the repository; jean-paul: agrees w hal about uncertainty is an issue; danny: if post becomes effective on repository that may not be to the pdp as well; outside the scope as to how repos data gets to pdp; hal: sec 2.2.1 types of policy admin points might ray: pdp could pull policies from repos, but no push is defined hal: would like to see req/rsp stdized asap; danny: clarifying that policy post and retrieval has no impact on any other synch of policy hal: saml had thing to pull policy updates, then people started to use it for policy provisioning; jean-paul: use case: submit policy to pdp, bound to one version of policy; if another partner signs new version of policy and 2nd version is applicable to them; want to be precise about version currently pulling out. danny: rest api is crud front end, backend effects are outside the scope; note: above discussion applies to some of topics below as well: REST Profile - REST API follow up: danny: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00096.html craig: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00100.html ray: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00101.html ray: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00105.html craig: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00106.html ray: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00000.html craig: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00005.html REST API -- finding a policy based on it's PolicyId craig: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00108.html ray: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00001.html danny: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00006.html ray: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00007.html jean-paul: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00016.html ray: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00017.html JSON mapping choices danny: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00099.html david: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00013.html ray: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00014.html david: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00015.html ray: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00018.html david: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00019.html david: final draft may be ready tonight; generally want to lose no info when going xml<->json. hal: single schema to avoid circular references erik: obligations created issues REST Profile - PAP Issues ray: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00102.html ray: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00104.html craig: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00107.html prateek: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00002.html anil: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00003.html craig: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00004.html Proposed PAP Architecture hal: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201206/msg00020.html jean-paul: thinks this is good approach; wiki should be good placeholder for reqts not specified so far, whether intra or inter domain. hal: people can update the wiki as they want; danny: thanks for getting that started; looking for common terminology; change approval, where senior admin needs to approve: is that something that should be in scope? hal: original (2001) tc inherited model from iso which helped move things along, possibly that would apply here as well. hal: objective to define simple interfaces other business: hal: next call is in 2 weeks: 28-Jun-12; same time, same number meeting adjourned 2:04 PM EDT ********************************* no new activity on the following items carried over: REST Profile - General Plan http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00025.html REST Profile - PDP Issues http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201205/msg00037.html (continuation)
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