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Subject: Minutes for 6 September 2012 TC Meeting - updated


Time: 13:00 EDT (GMT-0400)
Tel: 513-241-0892
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Minutes for 6 September 2012 TC Meeting - updated:
(updated to correct member status)

I. Roll Call:

    Voting Members:
	David Brossard	Axiomatics
	Crystal Hayes	The Boeing Company
	Rich Levinson	Oracle
	Hal Lockhart	Oracle
	Erik Rissanen	Axiomatics
	Remon Sinnema	EMC
	Danny Thorpe	Quest Software
	John Tolbert	The Boeing Company
	John Davis	Veterans Health Administration
	Anthony Nadalin	Microsoft

    Members:
	-

   &   Minutes:

    Approve Minutes:
     23 August 2012 TC Meeting
      https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201208/msg00031.html

	Minutes approved unanimously, no objection.


II. Administrivia

  ICS 2012: The intersection of polices, standards&  best practices
    for robust trusted public sector cloud deployments
   https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201208/msg00028.html

  Proposed change in XACML Mtg time:
   hal: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201209/msg00002.html
    postpone until Oct 18?
     https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201209/msg00004.html

       Will be moving TC call time slot to accommodate Steven Legg
        in Australia: proposed times:

		5pm EDT (when US on daylight time)
		3pm EST (when US on std time)

       Postpone date of time slot change to Oct 18.
       Defer TC vote to Oct 4.


  Public review for XACML 3.0 Export Compliance US (EC-US) Profile
   Version 1.0 has been announced
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201209/msg00007.html
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201209/msg00009.html

     Public review export compliance profile

   comments on EC-US (and IPC) profiles:
    steven: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201209/msg00011.html

     hal: duplicate organization;
     john: plan to keep them in sync;
     rich: thinks in general that parallel defined vocabularies are
      potentially problematic, should try to find common place between
      the specs
     john: smaller audience for export control than ip


  XACML V3.0 Committee Specification 02 (CS 02) Status
   Statements of Use:
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201208/msg00037.html
     Oracle:
      https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201208/msg00038.html
     Quest:
      https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201208/msg00041.html
     Axiomatics:
      https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201208/msg00042.html
     ViewDS:
      https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201208/msg00043.html
     Forgerock:
      https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201209/msg00006.html
   Advancing XACML 3.0 Core towards OASIS Standard:
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201209/msg00005.html


    Core voted to CS02
    Received 5 statements of use
    Need simple resolution to accept the 5 statements of use

    Remon: Motion to accept 5 statements of use.
     Eric seconds motin
     Motion passed w no objection to unanimous

    John: Motion to request a ballot to vote for submitting CS02
      to Oasis standard.
     Remon seconds
     Motion passed w no objection to unanimous


  comments on: JSON Request/Response v1.0 WD-01 uploaded
   https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201208/msg00033.html

    JSON profile: received feedback, working on new draft


  TSCP Interop Status -

    Interop status
      London TSCP event: Not enough support to justify
       Oasis involvement
      GPDIS in Phoenix: More TC vendor support likely,
       more likely Oasis candidate.
      Moving interop TC call to 10am PST

    Hal: Not too soon to start thinking about RSA 2013.
     Demo around the REST/JSON profiles?

    Mike: upcoming event
    mike: dept health human services
	   office national coordinator
	   stds and interop framework (S&I)
	   data segmentation for privacy initiative

	will be demoing patient privacy
	planned for HIMSS conf
	office of national coordinator for health info tech
	  (onc sponsors interoperability showcase)
	2 demos (next week onc/hl7(vocabulary)):
	wanted to do rsa as well but too close


  comments on: Combining Algorithms v1.0, WD-02 uploaded (w/ACKs)
   steven: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201208/msg00029.html
   erik: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201208/msg00030.html
   steven: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201208/msg00032.html

  ->  erik: believes he and steven are in agreement, w steven's updated
      text; erik will post new draft


  Comments on: Delegation/Policy Labeling:
   steven: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201208/msg00035.html
           https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201208/msg00036.html
   erik: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201208/msg00044.html
   steven: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201209/msg00000.html
   erik: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201209/msg00003.html
   steven: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201209/msg00010.html

    hal: admin and access policies: no way to use same policy for both,
     which may be why we didn't have specific label for both
    erik: today can do one policy for both: adds prefix to category,
     there is distinction in req that infer acc vs delegate
     2 types of req by diff category, so can write policy that can
      key off either case;
    hal: req is internal req within pdp for an evaluation; pep can't
     make explicit admin req: thinks anne demo'd that it wouldn't
     work;
    erik: policy can be applicable to both; latest proposal is that
     delegation profile make an extension;
    hal: sounds like has no impact on core, so should be ok w only
     new wd on admin;

   (substitution group alternative approach):
   steven: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201209/msg00001.html


  Status XACML IPC v1.0 Profile - PR Closed (20 August)
   Response to public review comments:
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201209/msg00008.html


III. Issues

  Cloud identity ad-hoc committee:
    start new TC or incorporate into XACML TC?
      any updates?

    rich: thinks they have agreed on charter and in process of posting


  Meeting adjourned: 1:46 PM EDT




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