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Subject: Minutes for 26 June 2014 TC Meeting


Time: 4:30 EDT (-0400 GMT)
Tel: 513-241-0892
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Minutes for 26 June 2014 TC Meeting

I. Roll Call & Minutes

  roll call: we have quorum

Attendance

Voting Members

Crystal Hayes		The Boeing Company
Mohammad Jafari		Veterans Health Administration
Rich Levinson		Oracle
Hal Lockhart		Oracle
Erik Rissanen		Axiomatics
Remon Sinnema		EMC
John Tolbert		The Boeing Company

Quorum achieved.

  Approve Minutes:
   12 June 2014 TC Meeting - updated
   https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201406/msg00019.html

  rich: note: fwd'd version that is not in archives, we are approving
	the replacement that was fwd'd

	approved no objection


II. Administrivia

  Note: no new msgs on maillist since last mtg minutes
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201406/maillist.html

  Follow-up items from last mtg minutes:

  Hierarchical Resource Profile published
   https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201406/msg00001.html
    xacml tc home page updated

	ok

  Digital Signature Profile published
   https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201406/msg00002.html

	ok

  XACML SAML Profile Version 2.0 15-Day Public Review - ended June 17, 2014
   https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201406/msg00003.html

   hal: any comments? just one w "hyphen" issues
	 erik to fix the hyphens, we will vote after the update made


  XACML REST Profile uploaded
   https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201406/msg00009.html
    included tc approved rename; tc was given time to review chgs

	hal: been out for tc review for 2 weeks, can move fwd,
	ray: bunch of small chgs, no comments, fine to move along
	ray: chg to "normative"

	motion: move to cs-draft
	  ray moves
	  crystal second
	  no objections to unanimous consent

	motion: 15d pub rev:
	  ray: moves to 15-day pub rev
	  crystal seconds
	  no objections to unanimous consent

        rich: official motion and votes follow:

  XACML REST Profile Version 1.1 - Approve a Committee Specification Draft
   Ray: I move that the TC approve "XACML REST Profile Version 1.1,
           Working Draft 08, 10 June 2014" and all associated artifacts packaged together in
           https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xacml/download.php/53260/xacml-rest-v1.1-wd08.doc
           as a Committee Specification Draft and designate the .doc version of the 
           specification as authoritative and to be published to the repository.
   Crystal: second
   VOTE: APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY
   ACTION ITEM: TC Chairs to submit request to Oasis to create the CSD

  XACML REST Profile Version 1.1 - Approve a Committee Specification Draft for 15d Public Review
   Ray: I move that the TC approve "XACML REST Profile Version 1.1,
           Working Draft 08, 10 June 2014" and all associated artifacts packaged together in
           https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xacml/download.php/53260/xacml-rest-v1.1-wd08.doc
           as a Committee Specification Draft and designate the .doc version of the 
           specification as authoritative and to be published to the repository. to be made available for Public
          Review.
   Crytal: Second
   VOTE: APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY
   ACTION ITEM:  TC Chairs to submit request to Oasis to announce a 15d public review.


	hal: ok, we will ask tc-admin for pub review



  DLP-NAC Profile
   https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201406/msg00006.html
   uploaded:
   https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201406/msg00010.html
    action from last mtg: follow up on datatype issue w ipaddress


    hal: looking for volunteer; may be hal

    hal: looking at subject: requesting machine, etc. each of those parties
	  can be acting independently; codebase, person, etc.
	  ip-addr probably only w machine
	 there are attrs proposed in section that just says subject,
	  which includes subject-categories, which seems somewhat
	  contradictory
	 asymmetry in current xacml; practical issue is how should
	  these attrs define which subpolicy should be associated.

    rich: should be entity w attributes w unique entity identifier,
	  which represents the type of entity. Attrs used in
	  multiple entity types should be defined for each entity
	  type, i.e. defn of entity type picks from a list of
	  attrs, those that are appropriate. Attributes don't
	  pick entities that they want to belong to.

    hal: other issue is defaults and the undefined, empty, zero type
	  of setting.

	john posted this email w relevant info just after mtg:
	  https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201406/msg00025.html


III. Issues

  Privacy Profile comments
   https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201406/msg00000.html
   https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201406/msg00005.html
    action from last mtg: Mohammad and tc to follow up on issues
      raised by Steven on unclear how profiles solves issues raised.

   hal: any advance on existing discussion?
   erik: uncertain what next step should be.
   mohammad: is there a simple example?
   erik: similar to common use cases: contract w different commissions,
	w multiple countries, parts of contract may correspond to
	privileges, also there may be policy combos that need to
	apply simultaneously;
   steven: policy expressions 5.3 in entities profile: policy expr
	erik referring to: should give mohammad idea of how the
	stuff works as an example
   mohammad: understand the general point; not sure if specific
	use case complex enough to require that.
   hal: does mohammad see use cases not covered
   mohammad: very broad title of privacy, but profile addr very
	specific subset of big picture; should not have normative
	example because varies between orgs.
   hal: need more discussion to see where going. awkward referring
	to unfinished profile (entities), combined w privacy
	profile static for last several years; 
	let's leave it to the list and see where we can make
	progress
   mohammad: will try to get some tangible comment on the list.


 hal: other business?

  john: will update urn's - tc can look at them; proposed chgs,
	will decide whether and how to incorporate; dlp/nac

	john posted this email w relevant info just after mtg:
	  https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201406/msg00025.html

 hal: next mtg: july 10;
	meeting adjourned 5:09pm edt





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