Re: [xacml] Cross references?

[Erik Rissanen <erik@axiomatics.com>]

Hi Chet,

The issue I have is that some of the profiles cross reference each other in a circular manner, so it's hard for me to make the right references before it gets handed over to you.

In particular, what happens when we go to OASIS standard with circular cross references? The Multiple Decision profile references the Hierarchical profile because some of the schemes in the Multiple Decision profile are based on hierarchies. The Hieararchical profile in turn references the multiple profile because it says that hierarchies are useful for some kinds of multiple requests, and to say that it is assumed that any multiple decision process has already been done, which the individual hierarchical decision is processed.

It wasn't a problem previously because we would go to OS with a bundle of profiles together, so they would be OS at the same time. However, if I understand it right, now each document has its own track, so that raises the question of in which order the cross references get updated and also what happens if you edit it assuming that they both make OS, but then one of them doesn't.

Can we handle these kind of references, or should I edit out the reference to multiple from the hierarchical, since it's not strictly needed for the technical content to still work?

Best regards,
Erik

On 2014-08-01 23:49, Chet Ensign wrote:

Hi Erik, 

One way to avoid this is to use the Latest version links when you update a profile. For example, to cite the Export Compliance Profile, you could use this format: 

[xacml-ec-us-v1.0]    XACML 3.0 Export Compliance US (EC-US) Profile Version 1.0. Latest version: http://docs.oasis-open.org/xacml/3.0/ec-us/v1.0/xacml-3.0-ec-us-v1.0.html 

That way, your references will always go to the most recent approved version of the document. 

Alternately, you can ask TC Admin to update OASIS citations during publishing with a designated cross-reference motion as part of your approval. To do that, when the document is approved for CS (e.g.) include language like this: 

"I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve <Committee Specification Draft title and version number> contained in <URL to Committee Specification Draft> as a Committee Specification, ******-> and to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration update the following Designated Cross-References during publication of the Committee Specification: 

- Current reference to be updated: <text of OASIS work product cross-reference to be updated?  Expected approval status and date: <expected approval stage>, <expected month/year of approval> 

- <repeat references as needed> "

With that sort of explicit instruction in the motion, I'll update the cross-references as part of the publication. It is the only time that I'll go in and change what the TC wrote - I stay out of TC content in general. 

Does this answer the question or are you looking at something different? 

Best, 

/chet 

 

On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Erik Rissanen <erik@axiomatics.com> wrote:

Hi,

I noticed that some of the CS profiles have cross references to old versions of other profiles. Does someone know what the process is for updating them nowadays? I remember in the past we did votes on the topic.

Ideally, I would like to make the updates only as they becomes published as OASIS standard since some of the profiles refer to each other, so there would be a chicken and egg type of problem if we had to make the changes as part of working draft editing.

Best regards,
Erik

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