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1) XRI of the parties involved. In any contract, we need to specify the parties involed. 2) templateID: this points to the contract template, in which other information like parties can be inserted to make it a complete contract. 3) Jurisdiction: We need to specify in which jurisdiction this contract is governed. 4) date: we need date in the contract 5) dsig: Digital Signature of some form. Any thoughts? 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If you look at it in XDI graph terms, there is a critical = difference between a Link relationship and a Resource relationship. Resource = relationships are purely acyclic (hierarchical) – they can define only trees. = Link relationships are cyclic – they join two trees, or join the = branches or leaves of a single tree.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>When this acyclic vs. cyclic model = is applied to XDI as an endless acyclic graph (a web) capable of describing = all data, then the root of every tree in this web is an *<b><span = style=3D'font-weight: bold'>authority</span></b>*. Exactly like the root of every website = – a home page – has an authority responsible for its content (both = technically and legally).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In short: the question of link vs. resource is the question of: who's data is it? Who controls the = identifiers and assertions being made at any point in the = graph?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I believe this authority control = element is absolutely vital to XDI. It is the heart of what distinguishes it = from RDF, which provides very rich data description, XML, which provides very = extensible data representation, and HTTP, which provides very flexible content = exchange and negotiation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What XDI is able to model that is = not natively done in these other bodies of work is data authority and = agreement between data authorities (link contracts). That's why it is such a = fundamental solution to problems of privacy and data = protection.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Net net: this is why I believe = links are such a vital feature of the proposed XDI metaschema, and also the heart = of link contracts.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I'm working on more detailed = examples to illustrate this but don't expect to get them posted until late = tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=3DDrummond = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font = size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1> </span></font></div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font = size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Loren = West [mailto:loren.west@epok.net] <br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, <st1:date = Year=3D"2004" Day=3D"24" Month=3D"5" ls=3D"trans" w:st=3D"on">May 24, 2004</st1:date> = <st1:time Minute=3D"45" Hour=3D"16" w:st=3D"on">4:45 PM</st1:time><br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Sakimura, Nat'; xdi@lists.oasis-open.org<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [xdi] What = is "link" after all?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'>Hello = XDI'ers,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'>If I understand it correctly, the difference between <link> and <resource> isn't as much if = it's cached as if the containing resource is the "owner" of the = contained resource (they're often the same, but it's a subtle = difference).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'>The presence or absence of a = LinkContract governing the relationship provides the same information, and I'm with = you - the XML doesn't need to be different based on this characteristic of the relationship.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'>This is similar to my argument = that the XRI identifier shouldn't be different because of this characteristic of = the relationship.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'>Not to diminish the importance of = this characteristic, it's just that neither the identifier nor the XML tag = should change when this attribute of the relationship (inevitably) = changes.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'>As far as your proposal for = LinkContract portion, I see two different threads:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'>1) Where does it go within the XDI document, and</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'>2) What is its = structure</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'>I propose we handle these in two = separate email threads because each has a life of it's = own.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'>=3DLoren</span></font><o:p></o:p></= p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 = face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original = Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Sakimura, Nat [mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp] <br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, = <st1:date Year=3D"2004" Day=3D"19" Month=3D"5" ls=3D"trans" w:st=3D"on">May 19, = 2004</st1:date> <st1:time Minute=3D"55" Hour=3D"19" w:st=3D"on">7:55 PM</st1:time><br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> = xdi@lists.oasis-open.org<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [xdi] What is "link" after all?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt'>Before going any further, I wanted to come back to this point = once again. Since people who were not present at NOLA f2f did not have a = chance to get involved in the lengthy discussion there, I think it is worthwhile = to revisit it online. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt'>So, what is "link" after all? = </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt'>If I remember correctly, the main difference from = <resource> and <link> in Drummond's model is that the later is the cached copy of = the former. In another word, <resource> is authoritative, and = <link> is not. Is that right? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"MS PGothic"'>If it is the real reason, then IMHO it is not = a very strong reason to difine <link> as the first class object, but some attribute of it e.g. <resource = status=3D"non-authoritative"> would do. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"MS PGothic"'>I have always viewd the "Contract" a = very important feature of XNS because it is a touch point of the cyber world = and the real world. To be acceptable as a legal contract, it should have certain qualities, and I believe "Link Contract" should satisfy them. = This means that we have to impose certain structure to it: more than just = what has been discribed in Drummond's draft. This precicely is the reason why I = drew up a version which had much more structure in it. = </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"MS PGothic"'>Let me extract my version of the "LinkContract" from the uploaded meta-schema for the = readability. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"MS PGothic"'><element = name=3D"LinkContract"><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS = PGothic"'><complexContent><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> <extension base=3D"Resource"><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> <sequence><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></f= ont><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> <element name=3D"parties" type=3D"Xri"><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> &nbs= p; </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> <complexType><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> &nbs= p; </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> <sequence><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> &nbs= p; </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> <element name=3D"party" type=3D"Xri"<br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> &nbs= p; </span></font><fo= nt size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> minOccurs=3D"2" maxOccurs=3D"unbounded"/><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> &nbs= p; </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> </sequence><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> &nbs= p; </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> </complexType><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></f= ont><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> </element><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></f= ont><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> <element name=3D"jurisdiction" type=3D"Xri" = /><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></f= ont><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> <element name=3D"templateID" type=3D"Xri" = /><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></f= ont><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> <element name=3D"date" type=3D"Xri" /><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></f= ont><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> <element name=3D"dsig" type=3D"ds:Signature" = /><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> </sequence><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic"'> </extension><br> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS = PGothic"'></complexContent><br> </element></span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"MS PGothic"'>I wrote it as an extension to Resource, but = equally, it could be a stand alone element. What I would like to discuss in this = thread is not the construction of the schema (there are many ways to represent = objects in XML schema, as you know), but on what kind of information the = "Link Contract" should have. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"MS PGothic"'>From the above, you probably can see that I am proposing following things to be included in the "Link = Contract". </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"MS PGothic"'>1) XRI of the parties involved. In any = contract, we need to specify the parties involed. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"MS PGothic"'>2) templateID: this points to the contract = template, in which other information like parties can be inserted to make it a = complete contract. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"MS PGothic"'>3) Jurisdiction: We need to specify in which jurisdiction this contract is governed. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"MS PGothic"'>4) date: we need date in the = contract</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"MS PGothic"'>5) dsig: Digital Signature of some form. = </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"MS PGothic"'>Any thoughts? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS PGothic"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"MS PGothic"'>Nat</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_028F_01C441B8.73B9F090--
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