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Subject: Re: [xdi] NRI link contract use case (was RE: [xdi] Agenda: XDI TCTelecon Thursday 1-2PM PT 2008-07-10)
--Apple-Mail-385--351913207 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-384--351913273 --Apple-Mail-384--351913273 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Tatsuki, You may be thinking of the XDI-ATI link contracts that work that way. The XDI-RDF ones are still a bit of a work in progress. =jbradley On 17-Jul-08, at 1:02 PM, Tatsuki Sakushima wrote: > Hi Marcus, > > > Hmm correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it would make sense to > > distinguish between a link contract and a template. Because it seems > > that in TX the RP can specify "optional" and "required" > attributes, and > > then the OP makes the decision which attributes are actually > exchanged. > > Yes. If this is the case, distinguishing between a link contract and > a template is required. But my assumption of how OP behaved was that > OP just made decision if it accepted a link contract proposal(a > template) from RP. No modification in the contract by OP occurs. I > was not sure this part, so I want to ask Nat first. > > Also, my impression of the current basic pattern was that it focuses > on *authorization*. My image of Link contract was something more > like *mutual agreement process or handshaking* for a specific > contract context. So signing from both parties(OP/RP) probably is > required. RDFs related to authorizatoin may be one of contexts that > a Link Contract handles but may not be a Link Contract itself. I > thought that XDI signature would be a part of Link contract. I > missed the 7/3 telecon. Sorry if you have talked about it already. I > am very interested to see how XDI signature works in Link contract. > > Regards, > Tatsuki > > Tatsuki Sakushima > NRI Pacific - Nomura Research Institute America, Inc. > TEL:(650)638-7258 > SkypeIn:(650)209-4811 > > Markus Sabadello ????????: >> Hmm correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it would make sense to >> distinguish between a link contract and a template. Because it >> seems that in TX the RP can specify "optional" and "required" >> attributes, and then the OP makes the decision which attributes are >> actually exchanged. >> But maybe I am wrong. >> Anyway, I played with my Visio file a bit again, trying to adapt it >> to the new link contract pattern at http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/XdiOneIssues/LinkContractPattern >> Find attached a new version. Maybe it would be better to put it on >> a wiki page, but I liked the idea of color coding the equivalent >> parts of the link contracts and the XML examples at http://wiki.openid.net/Trusted_Data_Exchange >> . >> Note to Drummond: >> - I used predicates $get$req and $get$opt for required/optional >> attributes. Maybe you have a better idea to express that. >> Markus >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Tatsuki Sakushima <tatsuki@nri.com >> <mailto:tatsuki@nri.com>> wrote: >> Hi Drummond, >> Thank you for replying. I missed a chance to talk with Nat the >> last >> week because he was out of country. Today I have a telecon with >> Nat, >> I'll explain to him about the basic pattern that the TC discussed. >> Hopefully we firm up our idea about TX and Link Contract while you >> are in vacation ;-) >> Have nice vacation and see you in six weeks. Maybe DIDW in >> September >> is a good chance to have a discussion face-to-face? >> Best, >> Tatsuki >> Tatsuki Sakushima >> NRI Pacific - Nomura Research Institute America, Inc. >> TEL:(650)638-7258 >> SkypeIn:(650)209-4811 >> Drummond Reed ????????: >> Tatsuki, >> Sorry for the delay in replying to this -- I'm getting ready >> to >> go on >> vacation and trying to catch up with past mail. >> I think that the link contract pattern we discussed last week >> can work for >> an OP-defined contract per your requirements. We should make >> that an example >> use case we document on the wiki. >> I'd be happy to help work on this once I am back from >> sabbatical >> (six >> weeks). >> Best, >> =Drummond >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tatsuki Sakushima [mailto:tatsuki@nri.com >> <mailto:tatsuki@nri.com>] >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:56 PM >> To: Markus Sabadello >> Cc: Drummond Reed; xdi@lists.oasis-open.org >> <mailto:xdi@lists.oasis-open.org>; Sakimura, Nat >> Subject: Re: [xdi] Agenda: XDI TC Telecon Thursday 1-2PM >> PT >> 2008-07-10 >> Hi Markus, >> Thank you for considering the TX use case. >> Probably I should confirm with Nat first, but let me >> clarify >> a few >> points in the TX spec. >> 1) In the TX spec, a template means user data(which is a >> OpenID owner's >> information) handling policy proposal *without signature* >> from RP. >> We might not have to distinguish a link contract or a >> template. >> If it is signed, it is a contract. If not, it's a >> template. >> Let me confirm it with Nat. >> 2) In the TX, a contract proposal comes from RP because it >> is a data >> usage policy that RP must commit. In the basic pattern the >> we talked >> about today, OP should define a link contract. We might >> have >> to find >> another way to do this in the TX spec side if following >> the >> basic >> pattern or consider a different pattern from the basic one >> in the link >> contract pattern side. >> I think Nat is in Sweden today. I hope he read this and >> reply soon. >> Tatsuki >> Tatsuki Sakushima >> NRI Pacific - Nomura Research Institute America, Inc. >> TEL:(650)638-7258 >> SkypeIn:(650)209-4811 >> Markus Sabadello ????????: >> I think what's missing on the LinkContractPattern page >> is an example for >> a "link contract template". Or is that concept >> deprecated now? >> I'm asking because I was thinking about how to >> update my >> proposal for >> how link contracts in Nat's OpenID Trusted Data >> Exchange >> would look >> like: >> http://www.oasis- >> open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xdi/document.php? >> document_id=28380 >> <http://open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xdi/document.php?document_id=28380 >> > >> Maybe such a template ("Bob REQUESTS permission to >> access some >> attribute") could look like this: >> $$$contract <-- this indicates a link contract >> TEMPLATE, i.e. a >> request for something --> >> $is$a >> $contract >> $a$contract >> =!2222 <-- Bob is the one who >> requests a >> link contract >> --> >> $get >> / >> $$ >> $add >> / >> $$ >> +y >> +z >> $mod >> / >> $$ >> +x >> +y >> +z >> $del >> / >> $$ >> +x >> +y >> +z >> Then the answer to that request (i.e. the >> "instantiated" >> link contract) >> with actual permissions given by Alice to Bob would be >> exactly this: >> http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/XdiOneIssues/LinkContractPattern#head- >> 7b714236b726216c5aec36b9ceafdcdf7de1961b >> Markus >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Drummond Reed >> <drummond.reed@cordance.net >> <mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net> >> <mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net >> <mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net>>> wrote: >> Following is the agenda for the unofficial >> telecon of >> the XDI TC at: >> Date: Thursday, 10 July 2008 USA >> Time: 1:00PM - 2:00PM Pacific Time >> TO ACCESS THE AUDIO CONFERENCE: >> Dial In Number: 571-434-5750 >> Conference ID: 3526 >> AGENDA >> 1) STANDING RULE BALLOT >> TC Administrator Mary McRae has suggested we have a >> ballot on the >> following >> Standing Rule in order to formalize our informal >> meeting schedule: >> "Standing Rule: Does the TC wish to adopt a >> standing rule to >> conduct >> regular business only by electronic ballot, without >> Meetings, with >> the >> exception of Meetings called for a special purpose >> with a minimum of >> 15 >> calendar days notice?" >> 2) XDI RDF LINK CONTRACT BASIC PATTERN >> Our tech topic for the day is a very core one: >> confirming the basic >> pattern >> of XDI link contracts in the XDI RDF model. This >> has >> been assigned >> Issue #4 >> on and a proposal written up at: >> http://wiki.oasis- >> open.org/xdi/XdiOneIssues/LinkContractPattern >> <http://open.org/xdi/XdiOneIssues/LinkContractPattern> >> 3) SUMMER CALL SCHEDULE >> We'll discuss summer vacation schedules and if/how >> often we want to >> have >> calls over July/August. >> 4) OTHER BUSINESS >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave >> the OASIS TC that >> generates this mail. Follow this link to all your >> TCs in OASIS at: >> https://www.oasis- >> open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php >> <http://open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS >> TC that >> generates this mail. 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Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php --Apple-Mail-384--351913273 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi = Tatsuki,<div><br></div><div>You may be thinking of the XDI-ATI link = contracts that work that way. </div><div><br></div><div>The XDI-RDF = ones are still a bit of a work in = progress.</div><div><br></div><div>=3Djbradley</div><div><br><div><div>On = 17-Jul-08, at 1:02 PM, Tatsuki Sakushima wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Hi = Marcus,<br><br>> Hmm correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it would make = sense to<br>> distinguish between a link contract and a template. = Because it seems<br>> that in TX the RP can specify "optional" and = "required" attributes, and<br>> then the OP makes the decision which = attributes are actually exchanged.<br><br>Yes. If this is the case, = distinguishing between a link contract and a template is required. But = my assumption of how OP behaved was that OP just made decision if it = accepted a link contract proposal(a template) from RP. No modification = in the contract by OP occurs. I was not sure this part, so I want to ask = Nat first.<br><br>Also, my impression of the current basic pattern was = that it focuses on *authorization*. My image of Link contract was = something more like *mutual agreement process or handshaking* for a = specific contract context. So signing from both parties(OP/RP) probably = is required. RDFs related to authorizatoin may be one of contexts that a = Link Contract handles but may not be a Link Contract itself. I thought = that XDI signature would be a part of Link contract. I missed the 7/3 = telecon. Sorry if you have talked about it already. I am very interested = to see how XDI signature works in Link = contract.<br><br>Regards,<br>Tatsuki<br><br>Tatsuki Sakushima<br>NRI = Pacific - Nomura Research Institute America, = Inc.<br>TEL:(650)638-7258<br>SkypeIn:(650)209-4811<br><br>Markus = Sabadello ????????:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hmm correct me if I'm = wrong, but I think it would make sense to distinguish between a link = contract and a template. Because it seems that in TX the RP can specify = "optional" and "required" attributes, and then the OP makes the decision = which attributes are actually exchanged.<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite">But maybe I am wrong.<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite">Anyway, I played with my Visio file a bit again, trying to = adapt it to the new link contract pattern at <a = href=3D"http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/XdiOneIssues/LinkContractPattern">h= ttp://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/XdiOneIssues/LinkContractPattern</a><br></bl= ockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Find attached a new version. Maybe it = would be better to put it on a wiki page, but I liked the idea of color = coding the equivalent parts of the link contracts and the XML examples = at <a = href=3D"http://wiki.openid.net/Trusted_Data_Exchange">http://wiki.openid.n= et/Trusted_Data_Exchange</a>.<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite">Note to Drummond:<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite">- I used predicates $get$req and $get$opt for = required/optional attributes. Maybe you have a better idea to express = that.<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite">Markus<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Thu, = Jul 17, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Tatsuki Sakushima <<a = href=3D"mailto:tatsuki@nri.com">tatsuki@nri.com</a> <<a = href=3D"mailto:tatsuki@nri.com">mailto:tatsuki@nri.com</a>>> = wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> Hi = Drummond,<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = Thank you for replying. I missed a chance to talk with = Nat the last<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = week because he was out of country. Today I have a = telecon with Nat,<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = I'll explain to him about the basic pattern that the = TC discussed.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = Hopefully we firm up our idea about TX and Link = Contract while you<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = are in vacation ;-)<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> Have nice vacation and see you in six = weeks. Maybe DIDW in September<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = is a good chance to have a discussion = face-to-face?<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = Best,<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = Tatsuki<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = Tatsuki Sakushima<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> NRI Pacific - Nomura Research Institute = America, Inc.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = TEL:(650)638-7258<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = SkypeIn:(650)209-4811<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> Drummond Reed = ????????:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = Tatsuki,<br></blockquote><blockq= uote type=3D"cite"> Sorry for = the delay in replying to this -- I'm getting ready = to<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = go = on<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = vacation and trying to catch = up with past mail.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = I think that the link contract = pattern we discussed last week<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = can work = for<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = an OP-defined contract per = your requirements. We should make<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> that an = example<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = use case we document on the = wiki.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = I'd be happy to help work on = this once I am back from sabbatical<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = (six<br></blockquote><blockquote= type=3D"cite"> = weeks).<br></blockquote><blockqu= ote type=3D"cite"> = Best,<br></blockquote><blockquot= e type=3D"cite"> = =3DDrummond<br></blockquote><blo= ckquote type=3D"cite"> = -----Ori= ginal Message-----<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = From: = Tatsuki Sakushima [<a = href=3D"mailto:tatsuki@nri.com">mailto:tatsuki@nri.com</a><br></blockquote= ><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = <<a = href=3D"mailto:tatsuki@nri.com">mailto:tatsuki@nri.com</a>>]<br></blockquo= te><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = Sent: = Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:56 PM<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">= To: = Markus Sabadello<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = Cc: = Drummond Reed; <a = href=3D"mailto:xdi@lists.oasis-open.org">xdi@lists.oasis-open.org</a><br><= /blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = <<a = href=3D"mailto:xdi@lists.oasis-open.org">mailto:xdi@lists.oasis-open.org</= a>>; Sakimura, Nat<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = Subject:= Re: [xdi] Agenda: XDI TC Telecon Thursday 1-2PM = PT<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = 2008-07-= 10<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = Hi = Markus,<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = Thank = you for considering the TX use case.<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = Probably= I should confirm with Nat first, but let me = clarify<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = a = few<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = points = in the TX spec.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = 1) In = the TX spec, a template means user data(which is = a<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = OpenID = owner's<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = informat= ion) handling policy proposal *without = signature*<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = from = RP.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = We = might not have to distinguish a link contract or a = template.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = If it = is signed, it is a contract. If not, it's a = template.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = Let me = confirm it with Nat.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = 2) In = the TX, a contract proposal comes from RP because = it<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = is a = data<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = usage = policy that RP must commit. In the basic pattern = the<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = we = talked<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = about = today, OP should define a link contract. We might = have<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = to = find<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = another = way to do this in the TX spec side if following = the<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = basic<br= ></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = pattern = or consider a different pattern from the basic = one<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = in the = link<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = contract= pattern side.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = I = think Nat is in Sweden today. I hope he read this = and<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = reply = soon.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = Tatsuki<= br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = Tatsuki = Sakushima<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = NRI = Pacific - Nomura Research Institute America, = Inc.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = TEL:(650= )638-7258<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = SkypeIn:= (650)209-4811<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = Markus = Sabadello ????????:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; I think what's missing on the LinkContractPattern = page<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; is an example for<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; a "link contract template". Or is that = concept<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; deprecated now?<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">= = &n= bsp; I'm asking because I was thinking about how to update = my<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; proposal for<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; how link contracts in Nat's OpenID Trusted Data = Exchange<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; would look<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = like:<br= ></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; <a = href=3D"http://www.oasis">http://www.oasis</a>-<br></blockquote><blockquot= e type=3D"cite"> = open.org= /apps/org/workgroup/xdi/document.php?document_id=3D28380<br></blockquote><= blockquote type=3D"cite"> = <<a = href=3D"http://open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xdi/document.php?document_id=3D= 28380">http://open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xdi/document.php?document_id=3D2= 8380</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; Maybe such a template ("Bob REQUESTS permission = to<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; access some<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; attribute") could look like = this:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; $$$contract <-- this indicates a link = contract<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; TEMPLATE, i.e. a<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; request for something --><br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; $is$a<br></block= quote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; $contract<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; $a$contract<br><= /blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; =3D!2222 <-- Bob is the one who = requests a<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; link contract<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = --><br><= /blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; $get<br></blockq= uote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; /<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; = $$<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; $add<br></blockq= uote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; /<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; = $$<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; = +y<br></blockquote><= blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; = +z<br></blockquote><= blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; $mod<br></blockq= uote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; /<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; = $$<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; = +x<br></blockquote><= blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; = +y<br></blockquote><= blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; = +z<br></blockquote><= blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; $del<br></blockq= uote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; /<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; = $$<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; = +x<br></blockquote><= blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; = +y<br></blockquote><= blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; = +z<br></blockquote><= blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; Then the answer to that request (i.e. the = "instantiated"<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; link contract)<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; with actual permissions given by Alice to Bob would = be<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; exactly this:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; <a = href=3D"http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/XdiOneIssues/LinkContractPattern#he= ad-">http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/XdiOneIssues/LinkContractPattern#head-= </a><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = 7b714236= b726216c5aec36b9ceafdcdf7de1961b<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; Markus<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Drummond = Reed<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; <<a = href=3D"mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net">drummond.reed@cordance.net</a><= br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; <<a = href=3D"mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net">mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.n= et</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; <<a = href=3D"mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net">mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.n= et</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; <<a = href=3D"mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net">mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.n= et</a>>>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; Following is the agenda for the = unofficial telecon of<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; the XDI TC at:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; Date: Thursday, 10 July 2008 = USA<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; Time: 1:00PM - 2:00PM Pacific = Time<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; TO ACCESS THE AUDIO = CONFERENCE:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; Dial In Number: = 571-434-5750<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; Conference ID: = 3526<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; AGENDA<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; 1) STANDING RULE = BALLOT<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; TC Administrator Mary McRae has = suggested we have a<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; ballot on the<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; following<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; Standing Rule in order to formalize = our informal<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; meeting schedule:<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p;"Standing Rule: Does the TC wish to adopt = a<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; standing rule to<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; conduct<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; regular business only by electronic = ballot, without<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; Meetings, with<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = the<br><= /blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; exception of Meetings called for a = special purpose<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; with a minimum of<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = 15<br></= blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; calendar days = notice?"<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; 2) XDI RDF LINK CONTRACT BASIC = PATTERN<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; Our tech topic for the day is a very = core one:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; confirming the basic<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; pattern<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; of XDI link contracts in the XDI RDF = model. This has<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; been assigned<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; Issue #4<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; on and a proposal written up = at:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p;<a = href=3D"http://wiki.oasis">http://wiki.oasis</a>-<br></blockquote><blockqu= ote type=3D"cite"> = open.org= /xdi/XdiOneIssues/LinkContractPattern<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = <<a = href=3D"http://open.org/xdi/XdiOneIssues/LinkContractPattern">http://open.= org/xdi/XdiOneIssues/LinkContractPattern</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; 3) SUMMER CALL = SCHEDULE<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; We'll discuss summer vacation = schedules and if/how<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; often we want to<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = have<br>= </blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; calls over = July/August.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; 4) OTHER = BUSINESS<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; &nbs= p; ------------------------= --------------------------------------------<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = -<br></b= lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; To unsubscribe from this mail list, = you must leave<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; the OASIS TC that<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> = &n= bsp; generates this mail. 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