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Subject: Minutes: XDI TC Telecon Thursday 1:00-2:00PM PT 2012-02-16
- From: Drummond Reed <drummond.reed@xdi.org>
- To: OASIS - XDI TC <xdi@lists.oasis-open.org>
- Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 21:32:52 -0800
Following are the minutes of the unofficial telecon of the XDI TC at:
Date: Thursday, 16 February 2012 USA
Time: 1:00PM - 2:00PM Pacific Time (21:00-22:30 UTC)
THE IDEARPAD LINK FOR TODAY IS:
ATTENDING
Mike Schwartz
Markus Sabadello
Drummond Reed
Bill Barnhill
Giovanni Bartolomeo
GUESTS
Phil Windley
1) SPECIAL GUEST: PHIL WINDLEY
Phil
is co-founder and CTO of Kynetx and author of the new book, The Live
Web. He explained his interest in doing an XDI server implementation and
using XDI together with KRL (Kynetx Rules Language). Kynetx has been
focused on Personal Event Networks, where events can be shared against a
set of personal devices and personal data. Being able to connect a
collection of personal event networks, and how to do trusted links
between them, is a good fit for XDI.
In
particular, XDI link contracts are good for describing event channels
and the permissions and notifications that go with each channel.
Phil
explained that the technology that his company Kynetx brings to the
table, KRL, fits well with the kind of rules processing required to
efficiently process events. He said that KRL is just one choice of rules
language -- the model he is advocating is not specific to any one rules
language.
We
discussed dynamic channels, which may be put up and torn down very
quickly depending on other conditions. This fits well with modeling
channels as data structures in the XDI graph.
What
is most compelling about XDI when it comes to event networks, however,
is the ability to federated event networks at scale just like SMTP
permits federated email messaging at scale. An example is the idea of
"intentcasting" in VRM (Vendor Relationship Management), where for
instance a parent travelling to Disneyland arrives and finds their
stroller has been lost by the airline. Rather than all the work of
renting a car, finding a store, and finding a stroller, the parent could
just "cast" their intent to buy (or rent) a stroller, and relevant
merchants in the area can respond. That requires a federated event
network where the event messages have matching semantics so publishers
and subscribers can find each other's intents.
It
also clearly requires trust and permissions, as Phil pointed out,
saying that "All you need to do is tweet '#macbookpro problem' and see
all the junk you get back to understand the trust issue."
Drummond
also mentioned a conference he had recently been sent an invitation too
called SmartData that wants to explore ways of sharing personal data
via "autonomous agents" who can protect the privacy of that data.
2) IDTRUST BUDGET PROPOSAL
Update.
3) OPEN SOURCE PROJECT UPDATES
Markus provided an update on XDI² ("XDI-Squared"). This is the new Java code base that he has recently packaged up and published. It is a new effort that is independent of the earlier XDI4j library (a component of the Higgins project). Supported
features right now include a basic implementation of the XDI graph
model, (de-)serialization, several storage mechanisms, and an XDI client
and server. It doesn't yet have link
contracts but Markus is going to continue to evolve it as a general
purpose reference implementation of the specs. It also includes a set of XDI-related web tools, such as the XDI Converter or XDI Messenger.
6) RESCHEDULING WEEKLY CALL
Bill asked if the TC would consider moving the weekly call to 9AM PT/noon ET on Friday.
#
DRUMMOND to send an email to the list checking with everyone about
this. If there is agreement, we will move to that call schedule next
week.
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