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Subject: Re: [xliff-omos] Modules and extensions



Yves, Chase, Felix, David and other TC members,

I have made the changes to the JLIFF draft schema 0.9.4 and the three examples, as we discussed in the meeting last week. Let me know if this looks OK.

I am working on examples of extensions based on JSON-LD.

Thanks.

  Dr. Robert van Engelen, CEO/CTO Genivia Inc.
  voice: (850) 270 6179 ext 104
  fax: (850) 270 6179
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  engelen@genivia.com

On May 25, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com> wrote:

Like Phil, I’m just wondering about the cost of JSON-LD when various namespaces are mixed in the same object.
Looking at examples such as those here: https://json-ld.org/spec/latest/json-ld-api-best-practices/#dfn-json-ld-context, the resolution of the namespaces seems relatively complicated and changes the object structure. But I’m probably missing a lot.
 
Cheers,
-yves
 

Yves Savourel 
Localization Solutions Architect
 | t: 303.951.4523 | f: 303.516.1701 | ENLASO®

 
From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:felix@sasakiatcf.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:55 AM
To: Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>
Cc: XLIFF OMOS TC <xliff-omos@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: Re: [xliff-omos] Modules and extensions
 
Hi Yves, all,
 
previously in this thread people said they are worried about ad hoc created namespace resolution systems. I understand the worry about json-ld complexity, but at least it is a standard solution, with many libraries available. Just my two cent ...
 
(I understand that it is likely that people won't go the json-ld path, this is just my last attempt to mention this approach)
 
- Felix 
 
 
2017-05-25 4:28 GMT+02:00 Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>:
 

Ø  I’m inclined to stick to _ to separate prefix from name, assuming _ are forbidden in prefixes and names by self-imposed JLIFF conventions. Underscore is at least widely supported in variable names.

 
A ‘_’ would be fine with me.
I was just under the impression ‘$’ was the preference for you (and maybe others).
I just wanted to be sure it would work with _javascript_.
 

Ø  Other programming languages may not accept $ in hard-coded property/variable names…

 
Quite right. But I wonder if it matters: Languages other than _javascript_ are likely to go through some kind of marshalling of the JSON data into their own data structures and have ways to address such issue. Actually _javascript_ is probably a special case: the more I work on JLIFF, the more I think it’d be quite hard for most languages to just rely on default automated mapping mechanism to get the proper input/output. But hopefully I’m wrong.
 
Cheers,
-yves
 
 
From: Robert van Engelen [mailto:engelen@genivia.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:11 AM
To: Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>
Cc: XLIFF OMOS TC <xliff-omos@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: Re: [xliff-omos] Modules and extensions
 
 
I’m inclined to stick to _ to separate prefix from name, assuming _ are forbidden in prefixes and names by self-imposed JLIFF conventions. Underscore is at least widely supported in variable names.
 
Other programming languages may not accept $ in hard-coded property/variable names (i.e. console.log(x.name.b) is "hard-coded" and so is console.log(x[“name.b”]) also hard-coded, but with a period in the property name that requires quotes).
 
- Robert
 
 
  Dr. Robert van Engelen, CEO/CTO Genivia Inc.
  voice: (850) 270 6179 ext 104
  fax: (850) 270 6179
  mobile: (850) 264 2676
  engelen@genivia.com
 
On May 23, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com> wrote:
 
Regarding separator, from quick tests:
 
Dollar-sign would work, but not period, IMO:
 
var x = {"name$b": "text"};
console.log(x.name$b); à ok
 
var x = {"name.b": "text"};
console.log(x.name.b); à error
 
More tests are probably needed.
 
cheers,
-yves



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