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Subject: [xliff] XLIFF Teleconference Minutes - Tuesday, 17 Sept 2002
1/Roll Call (Tony Jewtushenko) - Attendance: Christian Lieske, Tony Jewtushenko, Mat Lovatt, John Reid, Yves Savourel, Mirek Driml, David Pooley, Gérard Cattin des Bois - Apologies: John Corrigan, Enda McDonnell, Jonathan Clark, Mark Levins, Peter Reynolds - Observer: Bryan Schnabel 2/Call for volunteer to take minutes in Peter's absence - John Reid 3/Review of minutes (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200209/msg00004.html) of previous meeting & motion to accept or revise (Tony Jewtushenko) - Tony pointed out that the date of the minutes was August 6th but should have been September 7th. - With the above change, the minutes were accepted. 4/LISA Heidelberg Conference (moved over from last meeting) 4.A. Update from Gerard re: LISA's interest in XLIFF's Face to Face. 4.B. Update from Christian on Heidelberg videoconf faclilites. - SAP can set it up in Heidelberg. Christian pointed out that more than 4 fields would be impractical. - Gérard may attend but does not know yet. - Oracle is willing to set it up in for all in Dublin - Those in the US are too spread for a central location. If all join as videoconferencing, it would be more than 4. - John R indicated if not video, he would call in. - The time needs to be finalized. Bryan & Gérard are in Pacific timezone. - No decision made 4.C. Review & comments on "Introduction to XLIFF" presentation to be delivered by Christian & Yves. - This has been made available. Please get your comments to Yves and Christian. - No decision made. 5/XLIFF at LRC eContent Localiation - Conference and Industry Showcase, 2-13 November 2002, Dublin 5.A. URL: http://lrc.csis.ul.ie/learning/conferences/2002/index.htm 5.B. participation, presentation plans - Tony will be in attendence. David Pooley may be there as well. - Tony is willing to do a presentation. - No decision made. 6/XLIFF 1.1 Work in Progress: 6.A. Naming Conventions section in the published specification - do we need it? Debate & quick vote. - After discussing whether to remove the section entirely, move it to an appendix, or create a separate Guideline document of it, it was decided to move it to an appendix and call it "Naming Guidelines." - There was no dissent to the decision 6.B. Formal Extensibility - Owner Yves - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200209/msg00010.html 6.B.1. Issues (per Yves's mail) - Yves addressed each of the following items (6.B.1.a. - 6.B.1.c.) 6.B.1.a. XMLSpy doesn't validate correctly attributes in element where you can have attributes from other namespace (i.e. doesn't flag errors). So for example, testing attribute in <trans-unit> is not working, but testing in <context> does, because <context> doesn't allow extra attributes. - Validation does not work in XMLSpy. These techniques may not yet be supported well in the tools. - No decision 6.B.1.b.Current list of pre-defined attributes by opening xliff-values-1-1.xsd in a browser: the style sheet will display the values in a more frendly way. Read the notes in yellow and the places where there is '???' (they are unresolved issues). - Tony wanted to get this finalized. - Yves and John pointed out that Formal Extensibility and the list of values can be decided separately, which was acceptable. - Cut off date for submitting values to Yves: 7 Oct. 2002 6.B.1.c.Method of extending values - although it presently works this way, but I hope we can but I hope we can find a better mechanism. Maybe some help from SD specialist is needed. - Problems with this were pointed out by Yves and Christian. - Christian's union approach is intended to avoid some of the problems. - Christian and Yves are to work out another approach and submit examples to the group by week's end (20 Sep). - Comments on the new proposal through the following week to end 27 Sep. 6.B.2. Christian's attribute & element extensibility proposal (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200207/msg00035.html) & http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200207/msg00037.html & examples (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200207/msg00041.html) - see discussion fo 6.B.1., above. 6.B.3. Attribute Values & further follow up - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200207/msg00037.html - see discussion fo 6.B.1., above. 6.C. Embedded XLIFF - Owner Yves -http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200206/msg00001.html Localization Directives: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200206/msg00013.html - Yves still needs to work out some issues - No decision 6.D. Working Draft (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200207/msg00019.html) review - No decision 7/Any New Business - John brought up context-group/context as candidates for extension, similar to prop-group/prop. - He will write up a proposal. 8/Next meeting - Tues, 1 Oct 2002, 04:00PM Europe/London/Dublin / 08:00 AM PST
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