RE: [xliff] XLIFF 1.2 Draft

[bryan.s.schnabel@exgate.tek.com]

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Hi Tony,

 

> There's a section at the end of the spec that iterates

> through all the modification since last spec...

Ah, very good.  I skipped this part.  This is very useful.

 

I forgot to comment on the fact that you included a DTD version of the 1.2 Schema.  I know many people are comfortable with DTDs (myself included).  But I think it might be a big mistake to include the DTD.  Much of the strength of the specification cannot be supported or enforced with a DTD.  DTDs cannot support strong Type definitions.  DTDs cannot (effectively) support extensibility, or namespaces.  DTDs do not support the distinctions we make between strict, lax, and skip when it comes to namespaces and extension points. Etc.,

 

I think it's nice that you did the extra work to create the DTD, but I think we shouldn't include it.

 

Thanks again for doing all this,

 

Bryan

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Jewtushenko [mailto:tony.jewtushenko@productinnovator.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 7:38 AM
To: Schnabel, Bryan S; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [xliff] XLIFF 1.2 Draft

Hi Bryan:

Thanks for the feedback. The URI for the schema pointing to the file:///blahblah ..  location was a typo.  Good work finding this problem! - it must have been introduced by one of the tools I used to validate the sample file. I'll fix this in the next draft,  to be distributed before the next teleconference.

 

By the way, you didn't mention the "equiv-trans" attribute - I assume you were not reporting on all diffs,  just the ones you ran across in your review?  There's a section at the end of the spec that iterates through all the modification since last spec...

 

Regards,

Tony

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: bryan.s.schnabel@exgate.tek.com [mailto:bryan.s.schnabel@exgate.tek.com]
Sent: 12 October 2005 01:14
To: tony.jewtushenko@productinnovator.com; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [xliff] XLIFF 1.2 Draft

Hi Tony,

 

You've done an excellent job updating the schema.  Thank you very much for all you've done.

 

I tested and validated the schema, and I tested and validated the two samples.  Things look very sound from an XML point of view.

 

I noticed you changed the "Sample_AlmostEverything_1.2.xlf" file to refer to a schema location that is hard-coded to an absolute path:

 

xsi:schemaLocation="urn:oasis:names:tc:xliff:document:1.2

file:///c:/xliff/xliff-core-1.2-draft/xliff-core-schema-1.2.xsd"

^^^^

 

I think the sample would be better if it referenced a relative path, at the same level as the file, like this:

 

xsi:schemaLocation="urn:oasis:names:tc:xliff:document:1.2

xliff-core-schema-1.2.xsd"

 

This made it easier to validate for me.  I also validated several of my voluminous XLIFF files.  They worked just fine.

 

As far as the schema updates, they all look fine to me.  The changes I could spot had to do with adding "seg" and "seg-source" elements, adding the  "merged-trans" attribute, and adding 1.2 to the AttrType_Version type definition.  It all looks correct to me.

 

I hope in the next few days I can introduce the new elements and attribute into my samples for further validation.

 

Thanks for all you've done,

 

Bryan

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Jewtushenko [mailto:tony.jewtushenko@productinnovator.com]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 11:32 AM
To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [xliff] XLIFF 1.2 Draft

Hi all:

 

I've attached the draft XLIFF 1.2 spec to this email.  There were a lot more modifications than I had expected so instead of voting on it in a ballot we need to first review it,  and if its ready we can vote on it live in the next TC meeting.

 

It's important that you have a good lok at the spec, the XSD and the sample files.  I've also generated a DTD from the XSD (automatically using a shrinkwrapped XML IDE) and its included in the ZIP file.  If we intend to deliver a 1.2 DTD with our spec then it should be reviewed carefullly as well.  I don't think we published a 1.1 DTD,  and please correct me if I'm misinformed, so your comments about its relevance are encouraged.

 

 

Regards,

Tony

 

Tony Jewtushenko

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