RE: [xliff] Groups - XLIFF TC Meeting modified

[<bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com>]

Thanks for the good work by the TC at this meeting.  Thanks to Tony for taking the chair.  Thanks to Doug for the nice notes.

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Subject: [xliff] Groups - XLIFF TC Meeting modified



XLIFF TC Meeting has been modified by Mr. Doug Domeny*

Date:  Tuesday, 18 November 2008
Time:  11:00am - 12:00pm ET

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Agenda:
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1/ Roll call

2/ Approve previous meeting minutes:
Accept, reject, or amend. (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200811/msg00003.html)

3/ Recap ideas from the Face to Face brainstorming session
  A. It was widely agreed that a formal promotional effort would benefit XLIFF.  What is the best way (subcommittee, added item to the regular agenda, separate implementation TC, along the lines of the DITA Implementation TC)?
  B. Make XLIFF 2.0 modular. That way tools could certify to support XLIFF modules (like Full XLIFF Trans-unit support)

** Category 1 Issues: XLIFF 1.2.1 (quick Turn) **

Note - All issues should be identified, and ready to be put into the 1.2.1 Spec and Schema. It would be useful now to verify or identify action items to make it so.
(report from Rodolfo and Doug)

4/ XLIFF 1.2.1 Issues are tracked on the WIKI  (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF1.2/Errata)
   (Errata page begun by Asgeir)
 A. Link updated XLIFF 1.2.1 schemas to this page, and perhaps TC page
    i The items to be changed in the new specifications will be discussed in the wiki first.
      All changes to the wiki should indicate the name of the comment author.
 B. Start an XLIFF 1.2.1 Committee Specification and link it to this page
    i   Start a draft specification document for 1.2.1 and the corresponding schemas.
    ii  Rodolfo will create the initial draft, based in current XLIFF 1.2 specification, and
    iii Doug will edit and update the schemas to reflect the new changes
    iv  Doug and Rodolfo will be listed as editors in the new specification document.
 C. Proposal to add scope (criteria and due dates) to this page
    i   1st CS of 1.2.1;
    ii  Public review during December,
    iii Ready to go standard vote by March.

5/ Semantics on Attributes on Structural Elements (Christian)
(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200808/msg00006.html)

6/ Doug proposed discussing the issues raised by Stefan Uhrig
  (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff-comment/200808/msg00001.html)
 A. Section 2.5.2
 B. Section 2.5.1
 C. Section 3.2.1
 D. Section 3.2.2
 E. schema is too lax in Stefan's opinion


7/ TC charter may need a review and update  (http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xliff/charter.php)

 A. Mary outlined the criteria for updating the charter:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200806/msg00004.html

** Category 2 Issues: General, not tied to 1.2.1 or 2.0 **

8/ Preparing for a vote on Eric's representation guide (ICU Resource Bundle)
 (http://source.icu-project.org/repos/icu/icuhtml/trunk/design/locale/xliff-profile-icuresourcebundle-1.2.htm)
 A. Rodolfo to test XLIFF code samples
 B. Rodolfo and Eric to adapt the guide to the current templates

9. Asgeir advised a commenter regarding empty test strings in required attributes (more of a general XML issue, than an XLIFF issue (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200811/msg00002.html ).

10/ Add Rodolfo's concern about Content of  element to 1.2.1, or 2.0?
   (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200808/msg00011.html)

11/ ITS decorated documents and XLIFF (Bryan)
(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200808/msg00001.html)

12/ Rodolfo to invite Translations.com to join the XLIFF TC. He will contact Mary McRae and ask her to invite the company

** Category 3 issues: XLIFF 2.0 **

13/ Asgeirs tracking details page (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200804/msg00001.html),
(http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/Ideas) will serve as documentation for each of the items being tracked on the goals page (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0Goals).

14/ Topics for XLIFF 2.0 (Rodolfo)
  (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200807/msg00003.html)

15/ XLIFF 2.0 proposal: Allow [note] to reference [mrk] (Magnus, Bryan, Doug)
  (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200808/msg00004.html)

16/ XLIFF 2.0 Goals (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0Goals)

 A. Reports from Requirements owners on status of requirement
 B. Continue to classify remaining Potential Goals (Must Have, Should Have, Nice to Have)
 C. XLIFF 2.0 Requirements Document draft
 D. Begin to write the actual "XLIFF Version 2.0 Working Draft" (covered under item 13/ )

** Non categorized **

17/ Reports from liaisons involved with other standards groups:
 A. W3C i18n
 B. Oscar
 C. LRC
 D. OASIS DITA Translation Subcommittee
 E. OAXAL

18/ New Business
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Minutes:
Minutes for XLIFF TC 2008-11-18:

Chair: Tony J.

Previous minutes accepted without dissent. Motion by Magnus and seconded by Peter.

3/A Decided by consent to promote XLIFF ad hoc, not subcommittee. Not enough TC members to divide into a sub-cmte.
[ ] Peter to write up proposal on how to promote XLIFF among content handlers to export/import XLIFF.

3/B [ ] Christian and Magnus to create proposal on modular subsets and report back on progress by end-of-year.

Tony introduced Johann Roturier from Symantec.

4/ Doug has given Rodolfo (absent) the updated schema for XLIFF 1.2.1.

5/ [ ] Christian to follow up on thread http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200808/msg00006.html.

6/ Stefan's comments are essentially addressed by 1.2.1.

7/ [ ] Tony to draft charter update for next meeting.

8/ Rodolfo not present to comment on Eric's rep. guide.

9/ This item is considered addressed and closed.

10/ SUB text can be an empty string. Closed this item.

11/ This item is for tracking purposes. ITS in Bryan's Round Trip Tool.

12/ No more information at this time.

13/ Asgeir's ideas for 2.0. Ideas and suggested recommendations are still open. We need to categorize the new ideas.

14/ Rodolfo's (absent) ideas for 2.0.

15/ Magnus stated this item has been moved to the wiki. [ Magnus, I could not find it in the wiki -Doug ]

16/ XLIFF 2.0 goals tabled until next meeting due to time constraint.

Motion to adjurn: Magnus, seconded by Tony

Next meeting in two weeks, 2008-12-02

Submitted,
Doug Domeny

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