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Subject: XLIFF Teleconference - Mar-1-2011 - Summary
Teleconference - Summary Date: Tuesday, 01 March 2011 === 1/ Roll call Present: Rodolfo, Bryan, Christian, Yves, Andrew, Lucia. Regrets: David, Arle. Absents: Peter. Quorum achieved === 2/ Approve Tuesday, 14 February 2011 meeting minutes: Accept, reject, or amend. (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201102/msg00013.html) Bryan moves to accept the minutes Rodolfo seconds. No objections === 3.1. ISO/OASIS XLIFF - XLIFF as an ISO standard (Peter) (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201010/msg00004.html) Peter not present. Bryan checked about the interoperability event at Limerick. Thinks the requirements have been achieved. Rodolfo: Yes, Dee did say it was enough to be an interoperability event. === 3.2. XLIFF Symposium Debrief: "Voice of our customer" (Christian) - Reminder, Christian distributed a draft article on this topic - Consolidated takeaways wiki page (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/Consolidated%20Takesaways%20from%20First%20XLIFF%20Symposium) - Christian's slides: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/download.php/39848/2010-10-08_1st%20XLIFF%20Symposium%20-%20XLIFF%20TC%20Summary-draft.pdf Bryan: Christian worked on this. Draft provided. Liked it. Rodolfo: read it too. Disagree with many of the suggestions made by the public there, but article looks fine. Christian: same here. Consider myself as a "reporter" for this article. Bryan: helped me to remember the range of issues. Christian: I would be interested in the following: 1. a general OK from the TC "Yes, let's publish this All: +1. 2. suggestions for a good place to publish? Rodolfo: Maybe XML.org (Robin Cover) Christian: Good idea. Bryan: maybe a place with agreement for republication if needed. Christian: Multilingual? Bryan, Rodolfo, Yves: sounds good. Christian: will try both. I think it is important to listen to our users Rodolfo: Just make just it's clear that it's a consolidation of the public opinion, not the TC's opinion. But the TC will consider it. Bryan, Yves: +1 Lucia: Maybe Not enough stress on the "modular" idea. But impressive work. Christian: point taken. Bryan: one point was no reference implementation. Would be good to have one (like the DITA-OT) Rodolfo: yes, and it's part of the original requirements of 2.0 Some validation system maybe. Christian: Some of this was done for ITS. === 3.3. 2nd Annual XLIFF Symposium in Poland progress (Peter) Peter in absent. Bryan: not many news for this. Rodolfo: I may be able to attend. Bryan: Seems some European events have been moved forward. Lucia: nothing on the Web page yet. Rodolfo: Not official by the TM-Europe yet I think. Bryan: It is official on the TC side. === 3.4. Gathering common extension points from existing XLIFF Tools as a guide for 2.0 features (Bryan, Thomas) (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201101/msg00007.html) - Rodolfo added links to XLIFF 1.2 extension points to the wiki (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201102/msg00014.html) - Micah approves maintenance of the matrix to be taken over by the TC - Arle posted examples of how other TCs chart support for their standard (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201102/msg00017.html) - Scott McGrath is looking into this for XLIFF Bryan: described activities at OASIS for this. Waiting for summary from Scott. Rodolfo: dita.xml.org is a paid space. It's not an "objective" place. Also: added to the wiki is a couple of links to the schema, not a description of the extensions. Yves: will try to work on my action items for the extension gathering. === 3.5. XLIFF Spec in XLIFF (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201102/msg00011.html) Bryan: Just for fun. Not quite 1.2 specification, more like a snapshot of the current working draft. Maybe we should translate the specification at some point. Lucia: University Salamanca could work on this maybe. Need a tutor for this (I could do this). We may have to wait until October if we don't move soon. Bryan: would act on this soon, for 2.0. Lucia: FAQ and white-papers could be good way to expend info about the format. Rodolfo: if we translate, we should make sure to provide the translated XLIFF. I can also do the review. Bryan: will check about supporting documents. === 3.6. Arle posted feedback on implementation of current XLIFF (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201102/msg00018.html) Bryan: Think we had most of that feedback. Rodolfo: Yes. Seems not all their XLIFF documents are valid, may explain some of the issues. Bryan: good comments, somewhat already known. Christian: +1 Bryan: any feedback is welcome. === 4.1. Inline text (Yves) a. Dependencies with other parts of XLIFF 2.0 (dependencies http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201102/msg00002.html) b. Yves requested and received input on storing native data of inline codes (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201102/msg00022.html) Rodolfo: Twop options currently: in skeleton or not. Simplifying would be better. May just one tag. Text and data. Maybe in an auxiliary file, or in the header. Personal request: no data in attributes. They are to qualify the content rather than store data. Rodolfo: Dependency: segmentation. Feed-forward: please not in the source text. Leads to difficulties. Yves: +1. BTW Need to work on the segmentation representation in the TC as soon as possible. === 5.1. Requirements: Simplified XLIFF element tree (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201008/msg00012.html) and Christian's idea of Domains (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201009/msg00004.html) and Asgeir started a thread on multiple File elements (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201006/msg00012.html) - Will a current TC member take ownership, or shall we dismiss multiple elements for now? Some requirements were submitted by member no longer active. Anyone who wants to take over -> please edit the wiki. Yves: propose to start working on the bare-bone/core first and move forward from there. Bryan: +1 Rodolfo: need to start thread on those topics. Take the results and generate elements names/attribute lists, etc. Bryan: need to keep thing simple. Rodolfo: seem in some case people want more complex. Bryan: ACTION ITEM: All to look at the feature list (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/FeatureTracking) and documents not-included items. === 5.3. Bryan consolidated items from the dashboard into the features tracking page. Propose discontinue support/reference of dashboard (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201102/msg00016.html) Bryan: Did moved the items to the tracking page. http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/FeatureTracking === 7. Any new business? None. Next meeting is March 14. -adjourned-
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