RE: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as local access protocol

["Drummond Reed" <drummond.reed@onename.com>]

Gabe, you're right, mentioning this as an example of a future binding
definition (esp. right in 3.2.2 when describing
/IdentifierAuthority/LocalAccess/Service, and again in 3.4 when talking
about how local access works, would be ideal.

2 paras will do this. Will you take this action item (if I take the one
about the next draft of the XRI charter?)

=Drummond 

-----Original Message-----
From: Wachob, Gabe [mailto:gwachob@visa.com]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:08 AM
To: Drummond Reed; XRI Editors (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as local access protocol

Drummond-

Yes, I understand what you want to do. I don't think its a good idea,
though, because its essentially "half-specifying" an ldap binding. Its
entirely possible to have two different local access protocol bindings
which use ldap that are identified differently.

I suppose it would be OK to mention this as an example of a future
binding definition, if that would satisfy your desires...

        -Gabe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drummond Reed [mailto:drummond.reed@onename.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:02 AM
> To: Wachob, Gabe; XRI Editors (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as local access protocol
>
>
> I think we're talking about different things. I was simply
> asking how an
> XRI-identified endpoint might advertise that other local
> access services
> like LDAP or DSML were available at that endpoint, given that
> we have an
> element of the Identifier Authority Descriptor for doing this. I know
> that doesn't answer the question of how you would query for an
> XRI-identified resource USING such local access service. But since the
> endpoint at which the service is available MUST have an XRI, and it
> already has an Identifier Authority Descriptor for describing it, I
> guess I'm just asking why we are not providing the names of
> other common
> local access protocols as options, even if we say that the
> current spec
> does not define how to translate XRIs into queries in those protocols.
>
> =Drummond
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wachob, Gabe [mailto:gwachob@visa.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 9:05 AM
> To: Drummond Reed; XRI Editors (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as local access protocol
>
> Well, if you don't define the LDAP query, then you can't have any
> interoperability and therefore whats the purpose of "defining" an LDAP
> local access protocol?
>
> To put it concretely, if I have an XRI of "@example/foo.bar", and
> @example identifies a particular LDAP server, then what LDAP
> query do I
> perform? If thats not specified, then a local access protocol binding
> really hasn't been defined..
>
>         -Gabe
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Drummond Reed [mailto:drummond.reed@onename.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 12:37 AM
> > To: Wachob, Gabe; XRI Editors (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as local access protocol
> >
> >
> > I agree that defining a translation would be useful, but it's not
> > actaully required, is it? Say I have an XRI for "@foo.bar"
> and then I
> > want to make an LDAP query about a distinguished name at
> the endpoint
> > identified by "@foo.bar". In that case I don't have to express that
> > distinguished name as an XRI, I just need to know is that LDAP is a
> > supported local access protocol at that endpoint, yes?
> >
> > =Drummond
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wachob, Gabe [mailto:gwachob@visa.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 8:32 PM
> > To: Drummond Reed; XRI Editors (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as local access protocol
> >
> > Well, thats OK, but there a bit of work to do. We have to
> define how a
> > XRI gets translated into a LDAP or DSML query. This is not a
> > straightforward process, and there are probably a multitude
> of ways to
> > do it (an LDAP query is *structured* and I'm not sure how
> > that structure
> > is created).
> >
> > Does someone have a proposal for how to do this in a flexible way?
> >
> >         -Gabe
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Drummond Reed [mailto:drummond.reed@onename.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 4:12 PM
> > > To: XRI Editors (E-mail)
> > > Subject: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as local access protocol
> > >
> > >
> > > Gabe, I forgot that one of my notes in first reading the
> resolution
> > > section was why LDAP or DSML wasn't included as an option
> > > alongside X2R
> > > as a local access protocol? This is in relation to 3.2.2 an 3.4.
> > >
> > > =Drummond
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