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Subject: RE: [xri] Names for XRI URIs and URNs


I like them. Another obvious twist are XRIP "eXtensible Resource 
Identifier Permanent" and XRIR " -- Reassignable" which might be slightly
easier to pronounce. ("eccsrip and eccsriar") 

Nat Sakimura

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drummond Reed [mailto:Drummond.Reed@onename.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:06 PM
> To: Sakimura, Nat
> Subject: RE: [xri] Names for XRI URIs and URNs
> 
> 
> Interesting angle. We could even make it easier by just 
> saying "Permanent
> XRI" and "Reassignable XRI". Or shorten them to acronyms like 
> "PXRI" and
> "RXRI".
> 
> =Drummond 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sakimura, Nat [mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:14 PM
> To: Drummond Reed
> Subject: RE: [xri] Names for XRI URIs and URNs
> 
> Putting the marketing bit aside, I have a feeling that it might be
> clearer to most audience to explicitly state "permanent" and
> "reassignable". Thus, something like XRPID and XRRID (how
> awful!) or something like that.
> 
> Nat Sakimura
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Drummond Reed [mailto:Drummond.Reed@onename.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:23 AM
> > To: 'xri@lists.oasis-open.org'
> > Subject: RE: [xri] Names for XRI URIs and URNs
> >
> >
> > Gabe,
> >
> > Great point. I absolutely agree we need clear, short names
> > for a) URIs that
> > conform to the XRI syntax for URIs and b) URNs that conform 
> to the XRI
> > syntax for URNs.
> >
> > One suggestion that has been made is to avoid making the same
> > terminology
> > mistake that "URN" originally made by calling a permanent 
> identifier a
> > "name" (when in fact "name" is the term probably most
> > commonly associated
> > with a reassignable identifier).
> >
> > Since the term most commonly associated with a permanent
> > identifier is "ID",
> > I suggest the term "XRID" instead of "XRN".
> >
> > So you'd have:
> >
> > a) "XRI" for URIs that conform to the XRI syntax for URIs
> >
> > b) "XRID" for URNs that conform to the XRI syntax for URNs
> >
> > The only downside is that it may not be quite as intuitive 
> to the very
> > technical crowd that an "XRID" is the XRI equivalent of a 
> URN. But the
> > upside is that "XRID" will likely be much more intuitive to a
> > much wider
> > audience in the long term as the "permanent" version of an XRI.
> >
> > Others on the list, what do you think?
> >
> > =Drummond
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wachob, Gabe [mailto:gwachob@visa.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:20 PM
> > To: 'xri@lists.oasis-open.org'
> > Subject: [xri] Names for XRI URIs and URNs
> >
> > Working on the requirements document, its becoming awkward to
> > say "XRI URIs
> > and XRI URNs".
> >
> > I'd like to adopt a nomenclature for these two sets of identifiers:
> >
> > a) URIs that conform to the XRI syntax for URIs
> >
> > b) URNs that conform to the XRI syntax for URNs
> >
> > One might simply say "XRIs and XRNs" for a) and b) respectively.
> >
> > Some have argued using these terms (with the "I" intepreted
> > as "identifier"
> > and "N" interpreted as "Name" as per URI and URN) are
> > confusing. URI's are
> > more like non-persistent "Names" and URNs are more like
> > persistent "IDs".
> >
> > Thats a reasonable argument, but then again, it maybe
> > inviting an uphill
> > push to try to use new terminology that ISN'T derived from 
> the URN/URI
> > terminology. XRN (as far as I know) is only commonly used to
> > refer to the
> > XWindows newsreader (which is not so popular these days). XRI
> > & XRN would
> > work nicely in emphasizing their relationship to the URI and
> > URN dichotomy.
> >
> > Other suggestions/pushback? If not, I'd like to start using this
> > terminology.
> >
> >         -Gabe
> >
> 




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