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Subject: RE: [xri] FW: [chairs] status of mass doc import


I like it, or at least I think I do because I don't fully understand what is
needed in order to completely address the community's problems.

How would we get a handle (no pun) on the full set of issues?

Marc

> -----Original Message-----
> From: bill washburn [mailto:bill.washburn@xns.org]
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:22 PM
> To: Drummond Reed
> Cc: XRI List (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: [xri] FW: [chairs] status of mass doc import
> 
> Drummond and all--
> 
> Please forgive me, yet I cannot resist the urge to suggest strongly that
> while
> it is a fine idea to call the OASIS pain point a modal use case, I really
> believe there is a far more singular opportunity that ought to be
> recognized.
> Which is to say, Karl has just pitched to the XRI TC a huge, fat softball
> that
> could be hit out of the park as a home run -- so to speak.  But the home
> run
> opportunity is not just to address the OASIS problem abstractly,
> intellectually,
> 
> semantically, technically, etc.  The home run is to take this issue on
> fully,
> practically, pragmatically, politically, socially, and in every other way
> necessary so that the pain is gone, the problem eliminated, and the
> solution is,
> 
> well, completely done.  Maybe I'm just completely wrong, and yet it seems
> apparent that OASIS needs not a perfectly compelling analysis and
> description of
> 
> the solution to their problem, they need all of the messy and tricky real
> world
> work done so that the problem is non-existent.  To me, that is the true
> opportunity before us.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Bill
> 
> Drummond Reed wrote:
> 
> > XRI'rs (and Mike in particular):
> >
> > I hereby nominate the OASIS pain point described by Karl Best below as
> the
> > "modal" XRI use case for Persistence and Semantic Mapping. I don't think
> > there's a better example of the the need for maintaining persistent
> pointers
> > to online resources such as specification documents. In addition, the
> > long-running thread between OASIS chairs regarding TC document naming
> > conventions that Karl refers to is a similarly archetypal example of the
> > need for semantic mapping from reassignable XRIs to permanent XRIs.
> >
> > =Drummond
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karl Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:01 PM
> > To: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Cc: Jeff Lomas
> > Subject: [chairs] status of mass doc import
> >
> > I've had a couple people ask me about the status of the mass import of
> > documents into the doc repository.
> >
> > We had the folks at Kavi grab all of the docs in the ftp directories a
> > couple of days ago, so those docs are all in the repository now. They
> > didn't realize that we have a lot of docs that are elsewhere too, so not
> > all of the TCs' docs have been imported yet.
> >
> > During this process we've been realizing even more than before that we
> > need to be very careful about preserving current URLs. Messages such as
> > the one from Norm have reminded us how very important this is. There's
> > about 10,000 docs total, and most of them have internal links to other
> > docs, so there's a *lot* of URLs that need to continue to work.
> >
> > Our original plan was to import the docs into the repository, then
> > gradually replace the original docs with redirects that would point from
> > the original URL to the new repository location. After some more
> > thinking on this we're not comfortable that this is the best solution.
> > We want to take advantage of the doc repository functionality,
> > specifically the integration into the other TC functionality and
> > notification to TC members when a new doc is checked in, etc. but we
> > can't break the existing URLs. Perhaps the repository should just store
> > pointers to the docs which would continue to reside in their original
> > location. We've also got to integrate the new doc naming scheme, which
> > many of you have discussed on this list, into the entire doc storage
> scheme.
> >
> > Until we've come up with a complete solution that we're all happy with
> > we're going to leave all of the current docs in their current location
> > with their current URLs, in addition to importing them into the
> > repository. If any (two or three) of you would like to work with us to
> > help figure out a good long-term solution I would appreciate your
> advice.
> >
> > -Karl
> >
> > =================================================================
> > Karl F. Best
> > Vice President, OASIS
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> > karl.best@oasis-open.org      http://www.oasis-open.org
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