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Subject: RE: [xri] FW: [chairs] status of mass doc import
I like it, or at least I think I do because I don't fully understand what is needed in order to completely address the community's problems. How would we get a handle (no pun) on the full set of issues? Marc > -----Original Message----- > From: bill washburn [mailto:bill.washburn@xns.org] > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:22 PM > To: Drummond Reed > Cc: XRI List (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [xri] FW: [chairs] status of mass doc import > > Drummond and all-- > > Please forgive me, yet I cannot resist the urge to suggest strongly that > while > it is a fine idea to call the OASIS pain point a modal use case, I really > believe there is a far more singular opportunity that ought to be > recognized. > Which is to say, Karl has just pitched to the XRI TC a huge, fat softball > that > could be hit out of the park as a home run -- so to speak. But the home > run > opportunity is not just to address the OASIS problem abstractly, > intellectually, > > semantically, technically, etc. The home run is to take this issue on > fully, > practically, pragmatically, politically, socially, and in every other way > necessary so that the pain is gone, the problem eliminated, and the > solution is, > > well, completely done. Maybe I'm just completely wrong, and yet it seems > apparent that OASIS needs not a perfectly compelling analysis and > description of > > the solution to their problem, they need all of the messy and tricky real > world > work done so that the problem is non-existent. To me, that is the true > opportunity before us. > > cheers, > > Bill > > Drummond Reed wrote: > > > XRI'rs (and Mike in particular): > > > > I hereby nominate the OASIS pain point described by Karl Best below as > the > > "modal" XRI use case for Persistence and Semantic Mapping. I don't think > > there's a better example of the the need for maintaining persistent > pointers > > to online resources such as specification documents. In addition, the > > long-running thread between OASIS chairs regarding TC document naming > > conventions that Karl refers to is a similarly archetypal example of the > > need for semantic mapping from reassignable XRIs to permanent XRIs. > > > > =Drummond > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Karl Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:01 PM > > To: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org > > Cc: Jeff Lomas > > Subject: [chairs] status of mass doc import > > > > I've had a couple people ask me about the status of the mass import of > > documents into the doc repository. > > > > We had the folks at Kavi grab all of the docs in the ftp directories a > > couple of days ago, so those docs are all in the repository now. They > > didn't realize that we have a lot of docs that are elsewhere too, so not > > all of the TCs' docs have been imported yet. > > > > During this process we've been realizing even more than before that we > > need to be very careful about preserving current URLs. Messages such as > > the one from Norm have reminded us how very important this is. There's > > about 10,000 docs total, and most of them have internal links to other > > docs, so there's a *lot* of URLs that need to continue to work. > > > > Our original plan was to import the docs into the repository, then > > gradually replace the original docs with redirects that would point from > > the original URL to the new repository location. After some more > > thinking on this we're not comfortable that this is the best solution. > > We want to take advantage of the doc repository functionality, > > specifically the integration into the other TC functionality and > > notification to TC members when a new doc is checked in, etc. but we > > can't break the existing URLs. Perhaps the repository should just store > > pointers to the docs which would continue to reside in their original > > location. We've also got to integrate the new doc naming scheme, which > > many of you have discussed on this list, into the entire doc storage > scheme. > > > > Until we've come up with a complete solution that we're all happy with > > we're going to leave all of the current docs in their current location > > with their current URLs, in addition to importing them into the > > repository. If any (two or three) of you would like to work with us to > > help figure out a good long-term solution I would appreciate your > advice. > > > > -Karl > > > > ================================================================= > > Karl F. Best > > Vice President, OASIS > > office +1 978.667.5115 x206 mobile +1 978.761.1648 > > karl.best@oasis-open.org http://www.oasis-open.org > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>
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