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Subject: FW: Information on the UDEF - semantic equivalency mechanism
XDI TC Members and Observers (and also XRI TC Members and Observers): I am forwarding this reply from John Hardin of UDEF.ORG who doesn't have permission to send directly to the lists. Gabe, I note for the XRI TC that we discussed UDEF six+ months ago, and John and his colleagues should definitely be able to help us understand the intersection better now. =Drummond -----Original Message----- From: john hardin [mailto:john@sanghainteractive.com] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 11:59 AM To: 'john hardin'; ronschuldt@msn.com; ron.l.schuldt@lmco.com; dsommer@comptia.org; dnickull@adobe.com; geoffrey.strongin@amd.com; jim_rapoza@ziffdavis.com; patrick.stickler@nokia.com; Drummond Reed Cc: dconnelly@openapplications.org; mrowell@openapplications.org; mmckenzie@adobe.com; psnack@aiag.org; udef.builders@topica.com; 'XDI TC'; david@drrw.info; Jamie.clark@oasis-open.org Subject: RE: Information on the UDEF - semantic equivalency mechanism Drummond, Thanks very much, I will replace the paper I had printed <shame on me for killing trees>. Also - I am copying you on an email that just went between myself, David RR Webber and Joseph Chiusano, regarding UDEF and CAM. I think between these groups, and including the Reg/Rep, and some work by the ontologies/taxonomies/RDF/eBusiness Schema formats etc, we can come up with a very usable semantic equivalency mechanism for web services, B2B and eventually, the semantic web... Thanks for the interaction. Incidentally, I will be registering http://www.sanghainteractive.com (my company) as a OASIS technical member, and I believe should probably start a UDEF Technical Committee. What are comments from any and all on that? John Hardin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ john c hardin director / founder - sangha interactive 877.572.5691 - 313.737.1197 cell john@sanghainteractive.com http://www.sanghainteractive.com http://www.udef.org http://www.topica.com/lists/udef.builders/read/ http://www.geocities.com/johnchardin/ ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Drummond Reed" <drummond.reed@cordance.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:49:21 -0700 >John, > >Thank you very much for contacting the OASIS XDI TC. We have been aware of >the UDEF effort for some time but have not known about the particular >details of recent activity. There are many fascinating intersections >between the XDI Dataweb vision and how it proposes to accomplish "semantic >equivalency" and the UDEF effort, so it very helpful to have a current set >of pointers to UDEF resources. > >The XDI TC is in the middle of its use cases and requirements phase and >expects to start work on design in early summer. We should review the UDEF >work closely at that juncture. > >In the meantime, let me give you a new link to the XDI Dataweb white paper, >as there has been one revision since the first version in January: > > >http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/6434/wd-xdi-intro-white-p a >per-2004-04-12.pdf > >This would be the single best document for UDEF team members to review to >understand the Dataweb model and the proposed XRI/XDI approach to semantic >equivalency. It would be very helpful to use to understand how you would >recommend UDEF fit into this model. > >If there is strong synergy, we could also investigate developing a formal >liason, as we have done with the OASIS SAML and XACML TCs, the Trusted >Computing Group, and the ISTPA (www.istpa.org). > >Again, thank you for getting in touch with us, and I look forward to >exploring this together. > >=Drummond >206.364.0992 office >206.618.8530 cell > > >-----Original Message----- >From: john hardin [mailto:john@sanghainteractive.com] >Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 3:30 PM >To: drummond.reed@cordance.net; ronschuldt@msn.com; ron.l.schuldt@lmco.com; >dsommer@comptia.org; dnickull@adobe.com; geoffrey.strongin@amd.com; >jim_rapoza@ziffdavis.com; patrick.stickler@nokia.com >Cc: udef.builders@topica.com >Subject: Information on the UDEF - semantic equivalency mechanism > >Hello to the OASIS DataWeb team, > >Please copy this to anyone that you think might be interested. > >The Universal Data Element Framework (http://www.udef.org) is an upcoming >open standards effort that is gaining steam in the international IT >community. We are focused on developing and delivering a royalty-free, >global resource for "semantic equivalency". The method is to provide a >tree structure based on ISO 11179 metadata standards, using the common >representation words for Object (18 total) and Property (16 >total), eBusiness document formats, ontologies, taxonomies, for use as >data in web services and the semantic web. > >Some details: > >Specs and Education on the semantic tree structure - >http://www.udef.org/specdoc.html link is UDEF Master Trees and Spec >Use cases for mechanism on registry / repository - >http://www.udef.org/specdoc.html link is UDEF Registry Use Cases > >There is a NIST / Open Applications Group Proof of Concept in progress: >http://lists.topica.com/lists/udef.builders/read/message.html?mid=809089630 & >sort=d&start=217 > >The announcement of the permanent host for UDEF Registry is upcoming... >within the next few weeks, most likely. At that point, the build process >will begin on the functions defined in the use cases, and the XML'ized >trees will be deployed into the Registry. > >We are reaching out to a number of groups, and are enthusiastic about >presenting to the ebSOA group, which was scheduled for the last meeting at >New Orleans, but due to scheduling conflicts, needs to be rescheduled. > >I am reviewing the Dataweb info, and will comment regarding where and how >the UDEF can provide solutions. > >There are some statements of support from various IT leaders also: >http://lists.topica.com/lists/udef.builders/read/message.html?mid=808424809 & >sort=d&start=142 > >The mail list for udef.builders is archived at >http://lists.topica.com/lists/udef.builders/read > >Thanks for your time, and best regards, >John Hardin >http://www.sanghainteractive.com > > >************************************************************** > >For those in the UDEF group, here are some links to the DataWeb / XDI OASIS >TC, and related materials: > >http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=xdi > >http://xml.coverpages.org/XDI-IntroWhitePaper20040120.pdf > >http://xml.coverpages.org/ni2004-01-21-b.html > > >>OASIS Sets Path to 'Dataweb'. Effort Would Link, >>Synchronize Data. >>Yvonne L.Lee, Software Development Times >> >>OASIS in February began the second phase of work on >>what it hopes will be a Web that can not only link data, but also >>synchronize it. The new Web, which OASIS refers to as the 'Dataweb,' would >>provide a way to publish/subscribe to information. "If you have an >>application today that you want to turn into a Web service -- let's say >>accounting across a supply chain -- you can design a Web service to do >>that, [but] if you look at a different kind of problem, such as sharing >>contact data, there are hundreds of applications that need to share >>that data," said Drummond Reed, chair of the technical committee for >>creating the new system. > > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >john c hardin >director / founder - sangha interactive >877.572.5691 - 313.737.1197 cell >john@sanghainteractive.com >http://www.sanghainteractive.com >http://www.udef.org >http://www.topica.com/lists/udef.builders/read/ >http://www.geocities.com/johnchardin/ > > > >
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