RE: [xri] RE: Single delegation character

["Loren West" <loren.west@epok.net>]

Actually, @idcommons/fen is anything @idcommons wants it to 
be - including a delegation to a different endpoint that
fen has control over.

It could work the same as @idcommons*fen.  I believe a user 
given this option will choose it over bang or splat, and
it would be a shame if you're conducting a survey to leave
it out.

The XRI specification says nothing about what @idcommons/fen
means, and very little about what @idcommons*fen means
other than it's a delegated means of obtaining an endpoint.

It specifically excludes the concept of identity, or what
one identity knows about another identity, or who owns what,
or where control lies. 

=Loren
@idcommons*Loren
@idcommons/Loren

The above examples may point to 3 different places, or to
the same place.  There isn't any expression that I have
control of any of these places.

I believe that as soon as you express that information within
an identifier you get yourself into trouble.  It's complex
information, and changes at a different rate than the
identifier (which means it de-stabilizes the identifier
when it changes).

It's meta-data about the resource pointed to by the
identifier, and outside the scope of this TC.

=Loren

-----Original Message-----
From: Fen Labalme [mailto:fen@idcommons.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 3:17 PM
To: Loren West
Cc: xri@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [xri] RE: Single delegation character


Loren West wrote:
> Fen - while you're at it, you should try asking if they prefer
> @idcommons/fen to either of the above.  That works regardless
> of the change to the spec (if any).

No, Loren - it doesn't work.  Unless we make / the delegation character 
( which I think would be a very bad idea).  @idcommons/fen is what 
idcommons authority knows about fen, as opposed to @idcommons!fen in 
which idcommons delegates to the fen authority, which is what we want.

> I prefer bang over splat, and admit to printing a "bang name"
> on my business card in the past.

Yeah, I had one, too.  1982 or so.  I kinda like bang, too, but I'm a 
geek.  I'm looking forward to this weekend (survey) to kind out what 
normal people think.

=Fen