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Subject: Re: [xri] Secure XRD Proposals


That is one way that we could have a single document that contained a base64 encoded version of the XRD and a text XML version.

It can all be processed as XML safely.   

Effectively it is SAML Simple Sign with the http post encoding replaced by XML, to allow a un-encoded XRD to be included for apps not interested in processing the sig.

The big problem is that it changes the namespace.

If we use something other than XML to encode the two versions of the XRD and the sig that will increase the complexity of the client in processing it.

Our thought was that as they have XML processing anyway keep with it.

If we are going to introduce another wrapper then something like S/MIME or even HTML post encoding come to mind as options.

Just because the XRD won't be passed as a post doesn't mean that we can't encode it that way.

I am not super attached to the SXRD proposal but it is useful for comparison of the options.

=jbradley


On 18-Dec-08, at 1:22 PM, Sakimura Nat wrote:

That's Brian and John's proposal, so I would like to defer it to them for an authoritative answer.

________________________________________
差出人: Peter Davis [peter.davis@neustar.biz]
送信日時: 2008年12月18日 22:00
宛先: Sakimura Nat
CC: xri@lists.oasis-open.org
件名: Re: [xri] Secure XRD Proposals

Out of curiosity, what was the motivation for the introduction of the
SXRD element for the signature in proposal 1?

=peterd

On Dec 17, 2008, at 8:54 PM, n-sakimura@nri.co.jp wrote:

Hi

I have created a page:

http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xri/XrdOne/SecureXrd

It is the result of some private message exchange among me, Brian
and John.

If we were to forget about the backward comaptibility to XRDS2.0, I
personally like 1.2 SAML POST Simple Sign Binding style.

Otherwise, I like 1.3 Backword Comaptible XRD.

Related, but separet topic beside the format is whether to include
SigAlg in a signed material. XML Sig calls for SigAlg to be included
in the signed material citing weak algorithm attack. Then, there is
an argument that while theoretically interesting, the real risk is
very small.

Please discuss on this as well.

Actually, if we take 1.2 SAML Simple Sign Style, we can get SigAlg
outside of XRD and still sign it, so it is quite nice.

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