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Subject: Re: [xri] Second thoughts
--Apple-Mail-288--914882017 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We discussed that option but requiring the XRD to always be base 64 = encoded was not popular. The advantage of XML Dsig is that clients not interested in the = signature only have one format to worry about. If someone wants to do an additional trust profile with something like = SAML simple Sign that is fine but was rejected for a number of reasons = as the default. I think we should leave Dsig as is in the short term. With tokens where there is a closer relationship to the binding the = signature and encryption issues are somewhat different. John B. On 2010-02-02, at 8:41 PM, Breno de Medeiros wrote: > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 15:34, Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com> = wrote: >> First, WRAP is running away from crypto in general. It is based on = the assumption that client developers are limited. >>=20 >> We would all love to find a signature process that does not require = canonicalization but that means moving the signature to the transport = layer or in a separate document. We are going to leave the XML DSig in = because it is very useful to have. But if you have new proposals, it = would be great to consider them for the immediate set of protocols = looking to use XRD. >=20 > I think the approach with these standards is to have the payload base > 64 encoded and attached with the signature. >=20 > The clients download the payload, (optionally) verify the signature, > and then extract the content (enveloping signature). >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> However, I would like us not to lose focus considering we do not have = alternatives at this point. >>=20 >> EHL >>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Breno de Medeiros [mailto:breno@google.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2:59 PM >>> To: xri@lists.oasis-open.org >>> Subject: [xri] Second thoughts >>>=20 >>> Looking at developments since our decision to use XML DSig to sign = XRD >>> documents: >>>=20 >>> - OAuth WRAP was launched with canonicalization-free signatures for = tokens >>> - Proposal for Salmon signatures based on canonicalization-free = signatures on >>> streams >>>=20 >>> I am increasingly concerned that the directions is going away, not = towards, >>> meeting XML DSig. >>>=20 >>> -- >>> --Breno >>>=20 >>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >>> generates this mail. 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