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Subject: RE: [amqp] [Reminder] Proposed AMQP Technical Workshop

I think that we should be expecting about 10-15 people (there have been a number of off-list responses as well as those on-list).  This is probably about the maximum that such an event can support anyway. While there may be opportunity for parallel streams to be running, I think four or so topics is probably right.


The idea is not that work would be “completed” at this session, but that we would make enough of a start that work could then be progressed without needing to be sitting at the same whiteboard.


Certainly if people want to get together in web conferences before the event that is also a great idea.






From: amqp@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:amqp@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Steve Huston
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 3:28 PM
To: 'Andreas Mueller'; amqp@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [amqp] [Reminder] Proposed AMQP Technical Workshop


Oh, I certainly agree that there are critical areas to make progress on.

However, I’ve seen fewer than 10 people responding to the request for areas of interest. With so few people it’s going to be hard to make progress on more than 3-4 areas, I imagine.


I apologize for missing the call on Wednesday, but was there discussion of maybe doing at least preliminary work via web conference? It seems the travel preferences are intersecting even less than the work-item preferences J




From: amqp@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:amqp@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Andreas Mueller
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:21 AM
To: <amqp@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: Re: [amqp] [Reminder] Proposed AMQP Technical Workshop


Sure, less is more but there is at least one topic which must be done because it is Book 6 of the spec, distributed transactions.


Am 09.03.2012 um 16:13 schrieb "Steve Huston" <shuston@riverace.com>:

Right, I agree with Alexis that focusing is more likely to produce results over a short period of time.


Examples and Docs is proving popular (since new interested people will want that to get going). I had assumed that Examples and Docs were to be aimed at developers… if so, the obvious follow-up is what API are we writing examples and docs for? Hence, my point to work on a C/C++ API.




From: amqp@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:amqp@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Alexis Richardson
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:41 AM
To: Rafael Schloming
Cc: amqp@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [amqp] [Reminder] Proposed AMQP Technical Workshop




Just my 2c on this subject ...


"Less is more".  The intersection of what everyone wants is more likely to get done quickly, than a broad front of work.  I think Examples & Docs is a biggy, as is Conformance.  Following that I would pick Broker model(s) and mapping(s).




From: "Rafael Schloming" <rafaels@redhat.com>
To: amqp@lists.oasis-open.org
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 2:18:39 PM
Subject: Re: [amqp] [Reminder] Proposed AMQP Technical Workshop

From your list I'd have the following interests:

* Filters (and other registries/extensions)

* Federation / Global Addressing

* End-to-end security (Message Encryption/Authentication)

* Broker model / Management

* Conformance testing

* Generation of examples / technical documentation

I'm not sure if this qualifies as a sub topic of conformance testing or not, but I'd also be interested in continuing the interop testing from the connectathons and perhaps building out a more automated version of it based on the demo done at the NY F2F.


On 03/08/2012 09:05 AM, Godfrey, Robert X wrote:

Thanks to everybody who has responded publicly or to me directly.


In order to pull together a proposal for topics/dates/venue we really need responses from *everybody* who would potentially attend by the end of this week.


Thanks again,



From: Godfrey, Robert X
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:33 PM
To: 'amqp-ms@lists.oasis-open.org'; amqp@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Proposed AMQP Technical Workshop




The Member Section Action Group has been discussing ways in which the AMQP community can work together to drive forward adoption of AMQP 1.0.  One proposal which we are looking to take forward is to hold a Technical Workshop for interested parties to discuss future technical work streams around the AMQP 1.0 Core Protocol.


The suggestion is to hold a five day offsite (location and date to be decided) where proposals can be discussed, and ownership assigned, in line with the objectives that we have previously set ourselves for 2012. The topics to be covered, and daily schedule, will be agreed prior to the meeting so that parties who are interested only in a subset of the sessions can attend only those days which interest them.


In order to gauge interest and determine which topics should be covered, we would request that interested members respond to this e-mail within the next week stating which work-streams they have interest in contributing to, and which dates/locations they could attend.


Potential topics for discussion include


* Filters (and other registries/extensions)

* JMS Mapping

* WCF Mapping

* SOAP Mapping

* AMQP 0-9-1/10 Mapping

* SCTP binding

* InfiniBand binding

* In-memory binding

* Websockets binding

* Federation / Global Addressing

* Distributed transactions

* End-to-end security (Message Encryption/Authentication)

* Broker model / Management

* Conformance testing

* Mapping AMQP to OpenMama, MQTT, STOMP

* Generation of examples / technical documentation


Potential locations might be: US/Canada West Coast; US East Coast; UK - London or North England/Scotland; Continental Europe (Germany?) or suggestions from anyone else willing to host


Potential dates might be


26th March - 20th March (may be difficult to achieve due to timescales)

16th April - 20th April

23rd April - 27th April

30th April - 4th May (clashes with 1st May Holiday in some countries)

7th May - 11th May (clashes with 7th May Holiday in some countries)


You should highlight up to four themes (including potentially new suggestions of your own) that you definitely want to participate in, and separately up to four sessions that you may participate in if they are running.


Attendees at will be expected to have done work beforehand to craft their proposals in a form which can be distributed. The outcomes of the sessions will be presented to the member section after the completion of the Technical Workshop. Only work with sufficient interest, active contributors, and strong consensus amongst the participants will have the necessary momentum to succeed.


As a reminder - In order that we may quickly determine interest levels and scope for such a technical workshop, we request all interested parties let us know of their availability, preferred topics and locations by 8th March.


Thanks in advance,






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