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Subject: [OASIS Issue Tracker] (AMQP-117) Alternative mechanism for establishing a link pair


    [ https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/AMQP-117?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=66921#comment-66921 ] 

Clemens Vasters commented on AMQP-117:
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The proposal above works for a peer-to-peer connection, but it doesn't work for the routing problem that motivated the link pairs in the first place. 

If you have a scenario of a node A routing via a node B to a node C and back, whereby both A and C are only reachable via B, there's no way for A to express in the immutable reply-to that it wants the message back to itself in a way that makes sense to C, especially considering that B might even completely obscure A's and C's existence towards eachother.

That line of thought motivated "$me" and resolving "$me" back to the right destination motivated link pairs.

> Alternative mechanism for establishing a link pair
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: AMQP-117
>                 URL: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/AMQP-117
>             Project: OASIS Advanced Message Queuing Protocol (AMQP) TC
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: Link Pairing
>            Reporter: Gordon Sim
>
> In my opinion, introducing a completely new mechanism for request-response is a mistake.
> I don't see any real problem we have that would necessitate this new approach. 
> If you want this link pairing concept, why not implement it via a dynamic-node-property that indicates the sending link with which the receiving link is associated? (Avoiding the need to wait for a server assigned address could likewise be achieved by a dynamic-node-property and advertised connection capability).
> That way you have one mechanism for request-response, with the ability to modify that basic pattern for more specialised cases if necessary. Less work and less risk of increased interoperability issues.
> Proposal :
> To establish a request-response "pair" with a service S 
> Client attaches receiving link L to a dynamic source, with a dynamic-node property/value "paired-source -> S" 
> Client attaches sending link L to target S
> The links themselves do not carry the paired property.  We can still use $me as the reply-to.



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