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Hi David,
That sounds great. Then I can use my spare time to
convince the Norwegian Authoreties about our work in Norwegian, and we can
translate it for the BCM TC together in September.
As you know SOA Front Office AS helps me out in
earning money on environmental control systems (integrating sensors, video,
sound etc). We are now installing systems in Restaurants, Hotels, Sun-studio
etc. in Norway, Romania and Germany.
We are also able to proceed the interoperabilty
work for the abstraction layer of CEBus by ANSI regarding the Generic CAL device
modelling standard (CEA-721) according to my corespondance with dr Ken Wacks at
MITand ANSI .
( You have got info about the enormous
standardisation work done by: Johnson Control, Honeywell, ABB, GE, Intel,
Microsoft, Panasonic, Utility companies etc etc. Unfortunately Microsoft fucked
it up making a CEBus derivate called SCP (Simple Control Protocol) as part of
Universal Plug & Play and the working group was finally closed down in
2001. Never the less the functional device modells is described in the ANSI
CEA-721standard.
In the eFolder system this is handled by the
steering card: CONTENT-CARD. Deviations will then activate response and work
descriptions. ( The other steering cards) etc
This is nicely working with the real time modeling
we need for template processing etc
BR
Hans
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:00
PM
Subject: RE: [bcm] Close BCM TC? (BCM is
needed NOW more than ever!)
Hans,
Technically all we need to do to continue working is produce a rough
draft of the next piece of the specification - regarding templates - as
planned but not executed.
I think you have given us enough below to build a strawman draft from.
I have a lot of other writing I need to do this month for NIST, OASIS,
project proposals and more - so it will probably be early September before I
can post a start for us to work from.
If someone else wants to jump in and create that first strawman before
then - please feel free! So long as we have a start point - we can
massage from there.
Essentially I am seeing the specification needs to provide the XML
mechanisms to support eFolders and business process form exchanges management
(there's a big gap between BPEL, BPML, ebBP workflow and what is actually
needed for what BPML calls "above the line - aka human workflow" that eFolders
address).
This is the missing next piece of BCM - the XML to deliver on the
original vision.
Thanks, DW
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [bcm] Close BCM TC?
(BCM is needed NOW more than ever!) From: "EPR: Hans A. Kielland Aanesen"
<hans@eprforum.no> Date: Tue, August 18, 2009 4:45 am To: "carl
mattocks" <carlmattocks@gmail.com> Cc:
<bcm@lists.oasis-open.org>
Hi,
As David is saying "Sometimes OASIS work has to go where the "big
guys" fear to tread".
The
Norwegian Authoreties has now introdused the Norwegian Health Care and
Interoperability
reform plan released 19. June
2009:
This is
adressing the enormous challenges in interoperability and promote the
structure of a needed Hybrid thinking as we are working with in BCM and
EPR.
The elderly
wave Sunami is soon a big problem and we have now introduced an
interactive discussion forum through EPRforum with attached bloggs that will
be announced this week.
On the Topic site
"Technology and Stanndards" we are adressing two important
interoperability areas:
1. The Super structure eFolder Engine ( ITIL and OASIS BCM/CAM
standards )
2. The Environmental control bus-process server ( ANSI and CEA-721
standard)
See:
Unfortunately we are still working without funding, but both NAV
SIKTE and BI is
supporting us.
As you also
know we are working with several related projects for getting funding,
but in the meanwhile we are trying to explain the needed Governmental
eFolder controlled superstructure.
Carl, what do we need to convice OASIS about
proceeding?
Could we try to connect some projects with the
Obama's Health reform ?
Should we
translate som of the NAV and BI comitments ?
PS:
Unfortinately the links mostly refer to Norwegian texts, but at least
some figures and content should be familiar
BR
Hans
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:29 PM
Subject: Fwd: [bcm] Close BCM TC? (BCM is needed
NOW more than ever!)
Gentleman:
Are you able to contribute more of your EPR insights to create a
formal BCM specification
thanks
Carl
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From:
David RR
Webber (XML) <david@drrw.info>Date:
Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:41 AM Subject: RE: [bcm] Close BCM TC? (BCM is
needed NOW more than ever!) To: carl mattocks < carlmattocks@gmail.com> Cc:
McRae < mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>,
bcm@lists.oasis-open.org
Carl,
Sometimes OASIS work has to go where the "big guys" fear to
tread.
The EPR work offers templates for work processes and task cards with
an open public standard.
How relevant is this?
Check - iPhone, Android, Sharepoint / InfoPath, Ruby forms, ERP from
SAP and Oracle, Facebook - all wonderful people enablers - except - none
of them can talk to each other.
Since OASIS now appears to want to see specification production
happening every 6 months within a TC - I think we start moving out on
this.
Yes - its a big task needing real funding to complete the core XML
tasks - but there is much we can do besides - while we sort out that
funding.
Suggest we do the "top part" of the specification - Executive
Summary, Introduction and initial ToC. That will keep us "legal"
with OASIS - and then six months from now - we can see what resources we
have to do the next piece. You never know - maybe Google Foundation
of similar will fund us then and provide some fulltime resources?!?
Rome was not built in a day.
Thanks, DW
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [bcm] Close BCM
TC? From: carl mattocks < carlmattocks@gmail.com> Date:
Fri, August 07, 2009 4:55 pm To: bcm@lists.oasis-open.orgCc:
McRae < mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> Folks:
We have to decide if the EPR work and the lessons learned from the
70+ effort can be used to create additional BCM
guidelines.
Please reply by email by August 17th if you are able to contribute
to a new work effort
thanks
Carl Mattocks
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
wrote:
Section
2.15 of the TC Process:
The TC Administrator may close a TC that
fails to conduct at least one Quorate Meeting or conduct any
Specification Ballots during any six month period; whose membership
falls below the Minimum Membership; which has not completed its
deliverables within the schedule listed in its Charter; or which has
failed to show progress towards achieving its purpose as defined by
its Charter.
The most recent meeting minutes seem to be from
2008; there are no calendar entries for 2009, and the only deliverable
noted in the Charter is the original BCM specification which was
approved in 2006.
Is there further work to be done by the TC on
the BCM specification or additional specifications to be created?
Or should we declare victory and
close?
Regards,
Mary
Mary P McRae
Director,
Standards Development
Technical Committee Administrator
OASIS:
Advancing open standards for the information society
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