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Subject: Re: [bdxr] Re: FW: [ebxml-dev] ISO and UN/CEFACT initiate "Open Data Interchange"Framework Technical Report

Yes Kenneth you are correct.  I was talking previously about the ODIF project.  What is more immediately relevant to the BDXR community is the proposed UN/CEFACT project for "Reliable business document exchange across borders".  This was discussed at the last UN/CEFACT Forum and  some ideas have been developed for how UN/CEFACT can provide a UNECE Recommendation that identifies requirements and describes best practices for the use of message handling systems (including digital signatures and strategies for party identification) in cross border scenarios. These cover technical infrastructure issues regarding the trusted electronic exchange of any type of business document.  For those familiar with the work of UN/CEFACT this is how the concepts and development of several Single Windows initiatives were supported through UNECE Recommendations.

This will hopefully take more shape over the next few weeks and I will keep you posted.

On 25/05/12 12:01 AM, Kenneth Bengtsson wrote:
Tim, Roger

The UN/CEFACT initiative I mentioned at our last TC meeting was a for
specific "reliable business document exchange across borders". It is my
understanding that this is a different project from the "Open Data
Interchange" project mentioned in Tim's email, and more directly related
to BDXR. But perhaps Tim can elaborate on this?

Tim, yes - after the rechartering was approved, the original BDX group was
closed and a new BDXR group was created. Everyone from the old TC has had
to rejoin the TC. It is just a technical/administrative procedure.

Best regards,


On 5/22/12 4:48 AM, "Tim McGrath"
<tim.mcgrath@documentengineeringservices.com> wrote:

We have had high level talks with OASIS management before proposing this
project and they understand that their members are eligible for
participation and support the overall aims of the technical report.

It is not just BDXR but also the IebXML, WS-* and other TCs that should
be interested in participating.  Many of these are listed in the project
proposal.  So we probably do need to target specific TCs to make them
aware also and I will take this up with OASIS how they want to do this.
The project was only approved on May 5th so we are still setting up some
of the liaison processes.

PS. I thought I was in the BDXR TC but it appears with rechartering we
have to rejoin?  I was not aware of this and I have just rejoined.
Seems very odd as I was a founding member and approved the change!

On 21/05/12 11:58 PM, Roger Bass wrote:
This new effort seems particularly closely aligned with the BDXR TC's
Some members of the ebCore TC (Pim, Dale) are also involved in BDXR.  In
particular, some efforts are underway to see how parts of the ebXML
(e.g. CPPA), as well as the WS-* and other standards might apply to the
re-chartered BDXR work.

I think there was some brief mention of this ISO and UN/CEFACT
initiative at
the last TC meeting, but didn't see that this formal announcement had
circulated to the OASIS TCs.

Tim, Kenneth: would either of you care to say more about the genesis of
effort, and to what extent (if at all) there has yet been any
with OASIS/BDXR, or discussion of BDXR deliverables feeding into the ODI
effort?  In particular, I note that the first ODI work item is the
of a Technical Report (TR) for completion and balloting by July 20th.
any comments about the expected scope or content of the TR would also
be of
interest, I expect.  As an OASIS member, you might like to just join the
BDXR TC, Tim, or if not Kenneth or I could forward any other emails from

Regards, Roger

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim McGrath [mailto:tim.mcgrath@documentengineeringservices.com]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 2:10 AM
To: ebXML Dev-List
Subject: [ebxml-dev] ISO and UN/CEFACT initiate "Open Data Interchange"
Framework Technical Report

The ebXML community may be interested in participating in the recently
announced "Open Data Interchange" Framework Technical Report project

The accumulated experience with concepts such as ebXML Core Components
(ISO/TS 15000-5) has reached a point where it is now possible to jointly
evaluate this experience and envisage a possible common technical
in order to encourage greater consistency and effectiveness in the
maintenance and development of technical specifications and standards.

The project aims to define a consistent and timely way to address and
resolve issues of gaps, overlaps, and counter-productive standardisation
efforts through:
* Describing a coordinated "Open Data Interchange" Framework, fostering
integrated work program to meet stakeholder needs in administration,
commerce and trade, and
* Describing a collaboration process, involving business processes and
supporting data that facilitate the open electronic interchange of
structured data

The goal is to evaluate experiences and describe a common technical
framework that will engage other key players involved in standards
development and encourage greater consistency and effectiveness of
specifications and standards.

All interested participants should have expertise in the areas of with
knowledge in the area of methodologies and technologies for the open
electronic interchange of structured data.

This project is open to all members of ISO liaison organizations (such
OASIS) through the ISO work item reference ISO/TC 154 N 0659.
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