Martin C: Scribe: Martin C
Martin C: Agenda review:
Martin C: Tuesday 1/20 20 9 AM - 12 noon
1. Welcome, roll call, assignment of initial minute taker, agenda review - 15 minutes
According to the chair's notes, the minute taker candidates are (in order) Martin, Dieter, Frank, and Alex
2. Review and approval of the previous TC minutes - 5 minutes
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/bpel4people/email/archives/200812/msg00044.html
3. Discuss New Issues - 30 minutes
Issues 62 & 63 - Dieter
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BP-62
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BP-62
4. Discuss Open Issues - 15 minutes
Issue 20 - Phil et al
This issue has been open but unassigned since 10/1. We should agree upon what to do with it (or close it).
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BP-42
5. Constellation 4 Interoperability - Alex & Phil - 60 minutes
Tuesday Jan 20 1 PM - 5 PM
1. IBM/SAP Presentation on Task Routing Proposal - 2 hours
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/bpel4people/email/archives/200901/msg00007.html
2. Committee Draft 2 Discussion & Potential Approval Vote - Luc Clement - 1 hour
To accommodate Luc dialing in from North America, will start at 9 AM ET / 3 PM CET
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/bpel4people/email/archives/200901/msg00002.html
3. Resume discussion on IBM/SAP presentation - 1 hour
Wednesday 1/21 - 9 AM to 5 PM
1. Working session on task routing proposal(s) - - 5 hours
2. Michael to review proposals for issues 36, 44, 45 - 2 hours
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BP-36
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BP-44
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BP-45
Thursday 1/22 - 9 AM - 12 noon
1. To be scheduled depending on preceding two day's discussion.
Martin C: Michael and Yoici on wednesday morning. Time TBD
Martin C: Topic: minutes
Martin C: 10th December Minutes:
Martin C: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/bpel4people/email/archives/200812/msg00044.html
Martin C: Gershon: moves to accept minutes. Mike R 2nds
Martin C: Motion passed w/o
Martin C: Topic: New issues
Martin C: Issue 62: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BP-62
Martin C: xml schema problem in ws-humantask
Martin C: Deiter Moves to open, 2nd Gerhard.
Martin C: s/deiter/dieter
Martin C: motion passed w/o
Martin C: Mike R moves to resolve issue 62 with proposal in JIRA
Martin C: Dieter 2nds
Martin C: Motions passed w/o
Martin C: Issue 62 is reolved
Martin C: Issue 63: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BP-63
Martin C: Actual Owner Missing in WS-HumanTask Context
Martin C: Dieter moves to open, Phil 2nds
Martin C: motion passed w/o
Martin C: Discussion on both proposals in jira, keeping it as one complextask or splitting into request and resonse.
Martin C: discussion deffered until thursday morning.
Martin C: Topic:
Martin C: Topic:
Martin C: Issue 20: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BP-20
Martin C: s/20/42/
Martin C: Issue 42: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BP-42
Martin C: The tc re-confirmed it wished to work on this issue. Phil is assigned this issue and will come back with a proposal.
Martin C: Topic: Constellation 4 Interoperability
Martin C break for 15 minutes</B< pre>
Martin C: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/bpel4people/email/archives/200901/msg00011.html
Martin C: Discussion related around deployment scope
Martin C: vs benefits
Martin C: Action: Alex/Phil to open a new issue to detail the problem statement for Constellation and Interoperability
Martin C: Topic: IBM/SAP Presentation on Task Routing Proposal
Martin C: Dieter presents: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/bpel4people/email/archives/200901/msg00007.html
Martin C: Oliver takes over presentation on compsite tasks
Martin C: s/compsite/composite/
Martin C: Break for lunch
Dieter Koenig: will resume at 13:30 local time
Frank Leymann: Frank becomes humble scribe
Frank Leymann: Resume at 1:50pm
Frank Leymann: Oliver continues presentation: composite tasks
Frank Leymann: All: Discussion
Frank Leymann: Break for 10 minutes
Frank Leymann: Resume
Frank Leymann: Luc's presentation on Committee Draft 02
Frank Leymann: DocRef: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/bpel4people/download.php/30552/cd-02.zip
Frank Leymann: TC members will have a chance to review CD2
Frank Leymann: Luc will upload a DOC version with revisions marked up
Frank Leymann: Deadline for reviewing CD2 is the next TC call
Frank Leymann: Comments comming up during review should be send out to e-mail list before next TC call
Frank Leymann: BP-16 now coupled with the other BPs applied to CD2
Frank Leymann: Agreement: In future, all changes on a draft should be identifiable via DOC markings as long as the TC accepted the DOC as new CD
Frank Leymann: Topic: Routing Patter & Composite Tasks
Frank Leymann: Should Routing Patterns have their own syntax (in addition to Composite Tasks)?
Frank Leymann: Current majority is in favour (8:3:3)
Frank Leymann: Discussion is on the basic (!) difference between the concept of task routing and task composition.
Frank Leymann: Intense discussion on "do composite tasks require completion conditions?"
Frank Leymann: Some people view task routing as "flows through org structure", which feels different from composite tasks
Frank Leymann: Should we have (1) routing tasks with no actual owner and automatic completion, and (2) composite tasks that have (!) an actual owner who especially explicitly declares a composite task as completed?
Frank Leymann: Refinement: Should we have (1) routing tasks with no actual owner and automatic completion, and (2) composite tasks that have an actual owner?
Frank Leymann: Staw poll has staled...
Frank Leymann: Correction: it failed
Frank Leymann: We need more information on these concepts to decide whether to go ahead with both or not (e.g. result aggregation)
Frank Leymann: Meeting closes for the day