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Subject: Re: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting
Bill, I do not think I implied reasons to go forward would be automatically off the table. My issue was specifically including discussion of those issues in an agenda of a meeting that may close the TC. As I said, the issues could be considered at a later time if we decide to go forward. thanx, doug On 16-Sep-03 16:42, William Z Pope wrote: > Doug, > I respectfully disagree. The issues are some of the outstanding > items for the TC and hence one reason that the TC might want to > go forward. Any discussion of closing down the TC should examine > the reasons that the TC might want to go forward as well as the > reasons that it might not. > > =bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM [mailto:Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:03 PM > To: William Z Pope > Cc: Geoffrey Brown; business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Re: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting > > > Bill, > > I believe it inappropriate to discuss addressing issues at the same > meeting we work through the future existence of the group. I would like > to propose again, in stronger terms perhaps, that what we should discuss > in this meeting, and vote on, is whether after such a long period of > inactivity and after providing all our chartered deliverables it makes > any sense for this TC to continue. > > If the result is "yes" (the TC should continue its existence), then I > would like to see a proposed schedule of future meetings, deliverables > and how they fit into our Charter. Future meetings could be used to > discuss the issue list, means for addressing them and perhaps a Charter > modification [1] if the issues to be dealt with require such. Until > then, I think the we must constrain ourselves to one and only one agenda > item at the proposed meeting. Otherwise, we may create the impression > that suddenly, after all this time, the TC does indeed have an agenda. > > thanx, > doug > > [1] Note that only clarifications are allowed to a Charter. If the > proposed deliverables are new, a new TC would need to do the work. > > On 16-Sep-03 11:01, William Z Pope wrote: > > >>The items that I have for the agenda are >>1. Doug's proposal >> >> > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/business-transaction/200309/msg00013.ht > >>ml >> >>Several items that may be relevant to the discussion around Doug's > > proposal > >>2. BTP issues >> >> > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/business-transaction/200309/msg00008.ht > >>ml >> >> > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/business-transaction/200309/msg00009.ht > >>ml >> >>For people who are interested in attending the call, would you send me the >>dates and times that you are available and/or unavailble. We are looking >>for >>1/2 to 1 1/2 hours between September 26th and October 10th. >> >>Regards, >>=bill >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Geoffrey Brown [mailto:Geoffrey.Brown@oracle.com] >>Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:23 PM >>To: Doug Bunting >>Cc: zpope@pobox.com; business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org >>Subject: Re: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting >> >> >>Folks, >> >>If we are to call a meeting can we establish an agenda first. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Geoff. >> >>Director >>GRID Technologies >>Advanced Technology Solutions >>Oracle Corporation >> >>Doug Bunting wrote: >> >> >> >>>Bill, >>> >>>On our call a bit ago, you asked for my time constraints: >>>* I prefer slots that fit into the standard Pacific time work day >>>* all day on the 23rd works for me >>>* Wednesday through Friday of that week, I will be participating in a >>>face to face standards meeting (W3C Web Services Architecture WG) >>>* if I have time it would be Friday afternoon >>>* the 29th through 1 October, I will be participating in an internal >>>offsite meeting. While I may be able to pull myself out for a short >>>teleconference, I would prefer to be settled in my office rather than on >>>a cell phone for this meeting. >>>* On the 2nd and 3rd, my mornings are a bit cloudy. I may have some >>>time available earlier in the day on Friday (the 3rd). >>> >>>thanx, >>> doug >>> >>>PS. I have seen your question but not yet decided how I feel about it. >>>Will let you know. >>> >>>On 12-Sep-03 03:12, William Z Pope wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Doug, >>>>Interested in hearing your motion. That date and time work for me >>>>though I would also prefer something earlier. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>=bill >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM [mailto:Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM] >>>>>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 5:36 PM >>>>>To: business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org >>>>>Subject: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Bill et al, >>>>> >>>>>I would like to make a motion for consideration by this TC. >>>>>As far as I >>>>>know, such a motion must be raised during a meeting of the group and >>>>>cannot be submitted over email. While I would prefer to set up a >>>>>teleconference for next week, I suspect our quorum numbers remain >>>>>unchanged since the previous meeting and will therefore >>>>>suggest Tuesday, >>>>>23rd September to give as many people a chance to attend. If >>>>>the group >>>>>agrees, I would be happy to host the call. >>>>> >>>>>To pick a time out of the air, how about 10:00 AM Pacific time? >>>>> >>>>>thanx, >>>>> doug >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>SunNetwork 2003 Conference and Pavilion >>>>>"An unparalleled event in network computing! Make the net >>>>>work for you!" >>>>> >>>>>WHEN: September 16-18, 2003 >>>>>WHERE: Moscone Center, San Francisco >>>>> >>>>>For more information or to register for the conference, please visit: >>>>>http://www.sun.com/sunnetwork >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from >>>>>the roster of the OASIS TC), go to >>>>>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/business-transact >>>> >>>>ion/members/leave_workgroup.php. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>-- >>>SunNetwork 2003 Conference and Pavilion >>>"An unparalleled event in network computing! Make the net work for you!" >>> >>>WHEN: September 16-18, 2003 >>>WHERE: Moscone Center, San Francisco >>> >>>For more information or to register for the conference, please visit: >>>http://www.sun.com/sunnetwork >>> >>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of >> >>the OASIS TC), go to >> > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/business-transaction/members/le > >>ave_workgroup.php. >> >> >>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of > > the > >>OASIS TC), go to >> > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/business-transaction/members/le > >>ave_workgroup.php. >> >> >> > > > -- > SunNetwork 2003 Conference and Pavilion > "An unparalleled event in network computing! Make the net work for you!" > > WHEN: September 16-18, 2003 > WHERE: Moscone Center, San Francisco > > For more information or to register for the conference, please visit: > http://www.sun.com/sunnetwork > > > -- SunNetwork 2003 Conference and Pavilion "An unparalleled event in network computing! Make the net work for you!" WHEN: September 16-18, 2003 WHERE: Moscone Center, San Francisco For more information or to register for the conference, please visit: http://www.sun.com/sunnetwork
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