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Subject: RE: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting
All, I think the proposed meeting should have one topic on the agenda, as proposed by Doug i.e. the future of the BTP TC. Lets have that discussion, listen to views from all sides and make a decision. If the group decides to continue, we should formalise a regular call schedule with an agreed workplan. Cheers, Martin. > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM [mailto:Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:52 PM > To: William Z Pope > Cc: Geoffrey Brown; business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Re: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting > > > Bill, > > I do not think I implied reasons to go forward would be automatically > off the table. My issue was specifically including > discussion of those > issues in an agenda of a meeting that may close the TC. As I > said, the > issues could be considered at a later time if we decide to go forward. > > thanx, > doug > > On 16-Sep-03 16:42, William Z Pope wrote: > > > Doug, > > I respectfully disagree. The issues are some of the > outstanding items > > for the TC and hence one reason that the TC might want to > go forward. > > Any discussion of closing down the TC should examine the > reasons that > > the TC might want to go forward as well as the reasons that > it might > > not. > > > > =bill > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM [mailto:Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:03 PM > > To: William Z Pope > > Cc: Geoffrey Brown; business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org > > Subject: Re: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting > > > > > > Bill, > > > > I believe it inappropriate to discuss addressing issues at the same > > meeting we work through the future existence of the group. I would > > like to propose again, in stronger terms perhaps, that what > we should > > discuss in this meeting, and vote on, is whether after such a long > > period of inactivity and after providing all our chartered > > deliverables it makes any sense for this TC to continue. > > > > If the result is "yes" (the TC should continue its > existence), then I > > would like to see a proposed schedule of future meetings, > deliverables > > and how they fit into our Charter. Future meetings could > be used to > > discuss the issue list, means for addressing them and perhaps a > > Charter modification [1] if the issues to be dealt with > require such. > > Until then, I think the we must constrain ourselves to one and only > > one agenda item at the proposed meeting. Otherwise, we may > create the > > impression that suddenly, after all this time, the TC does > indeed have > > an agenda. > > > > thanx, > > doug > > > > [1] Note that only clarifications are allowed to a Charter. If the > > proposed deliverables are new, a new TC would need to do the work. > > > > On 16-Sep-03 11:01, William Z Pope wrote: > > > > > >>The items that I have for the agenda are > >>1. Doug's proposal > >> > >> > > > > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/business-transaction/200309/msg00 > > 013.ht > > > >>ml > >> > >>Several items that may be relevant to the discussion around Doug's > > > > proposal > > > >>2. BTP issues > >> > >> > > > > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/business-transaction/200309/msg00 > > 008.ht > > > >>ml > >> > >> > > > > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/business-transaction/200309/msg00 > > 009.ht > > > >>ml > >> > >>For people who are interested in attending the call, would > you send me > >>the dates and times that you are available and/or > unavailble. We are > >>looking for 1/2 to 1 1/2 hours between September 26th and October > >>10th. > >> > >>Regards, > >>=bill > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Geoffrey Brown [mailto:Geoffrey.Brown@oracle.com] > >>Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:23 PM > >>To: Doug Bunting > >>Cc: zpope@pobox.com; business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org > >>Subject: Re: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting > >> > >> > >>Folks, > >> > >>If we are to call a meeting can we establish an agenda first. > >> > >>Thanks, > >> > >>Geoff. > >> > >>Director > >>GRID Technologies > >>Advanced Technology Solutions > >>Oracle Corporation > >> > >>Doug Bunting wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Bill, > >>> > >>>On our call a bit ago, you asked for my time constraints: > >>>* I prefer slots that fit into the standard Pacific time work day > >>>* all day on the 23rd works for me > >>>* Wednesday through Friday of that week, I will be > participating in a > >>>face to face standards meeting (W3C Web Services Architecture WG) > >>>* if I have time it would be Friday afternoon > >>>* the 29th through 1 October, I will be participating in > an internal > >>>offsite meeting. While I may be able to pull myself out > for a short > >>>teleconference, I would prefer to be settled in my office > rather than > >>>on a cell phone for this meeting. > >>>* On the 2nd and 3rd, my mornings are a bit cloudy. I may > have some > >>>time available earlier in the day on Friday (the 3rd). > >>> > >>>thanx, > >>> doug > >>> > >>>PS. I have seen your question but not yet decided how I feel about > >>>it. Will let you know. > >>> > >>>On 12-Sep-03 03:12, William Z Pope wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Doug, > >>>>Interested in hearing your motion. That date and time > work for me > >>>>though I would also prefer something earlier. > >>>> > >>>>Regards, > >>>>=bill > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>From: Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM [mailto:Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM] > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 5:36 PM > >>>>>To: business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org > >>>>>Subject: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Bill et al, > >>>>> > >>>>>I would like to make a motion for consideration by this > TC. As far > >>>>>as I know, such a motion must be raised during a meeting of the > >>>>>group and cannot be submitted over email. While I would > prefer to > >>>>>set up a teleconference for next week, I suspect our > quorum numbers > >>>>>remain unchanged since the previous meeting and will therefore > >>>>>suggest Tuesday, > >>>>>23rd September to give as many people a chance to attend. If > >>>>>the group > >>>>>agrees, I would be happy to host the call. > >>>>> > >>>>>To pick a time out of the air, how about 10:00 AM Pacific time? > >>>>> > >>>>>thanx, > >>>>> doug > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>SunNetwork 2003 Conference and Pavilion > >>>>>"An unparalleled event in network computing! Make the > net work for > >>>>>you!" > >>>>> > >>>>>WHEN: September 16-18, 2003 > >>>>>WHERE: Moscone Center, San Francisco > >>>>> > >>>>>For more information or to register for the conference, please > >>>>>visit: http://www.sun.com/sunnetwork > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the > >>>>>roster of the OASIS TC), go to > >>>>>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/business-transact > >>>> > >>>>ion/members/leave_workgroup.php. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>SunNetwork 2003 Conference and Pavilion > >>>"An unparalleled event in network computing! Make the net work for > >>>you!" > >>> > >>>WHEN: September 16-18, 2003 > >>>WHERE: Moscone Center, San Francisco > >>> > >>>For more information or to register for the conference, > please visit: > >>>http://www.sun.com/sunnetwork > >>> > >>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from > the roster > >>>of > >> > >>the OASIS TC), go to > >> > > > > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/business-transaction/memb > > ers/le > > > >>ave_workgroup.php. > >> > >> > >>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from > the roster > >>of > > > > the > > > >>OASIS TC), go to > >> > > > > > http://www.oasis-> open.org/apps/org/workgroup/business-transaction/memb > > ers/le > > > >>ave_workgroup.php. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > SunNetwork 2003 Conference and Pavilion > > "An unparalleled event in network computing! Make the net work for > > you!" > > > > WHEN: September 16-18, 2003 > > WHERE: Moscone Center, San Francisco > > > > For more information or to register for the conference, > please visit: > > http://www.sun.com/sunnetwork > > > > > > > > -- > SunNetwork 2003 Conference and Pavilion > "An unparalleled event in network computing! Make the net > work for you!" > > WHEN: September 16-18, 2003 > WHERE: Moscone Center, San Francisco > > For more information or to register for the conference, > please visit: http://www.sun.com/sunnetwork > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from > the roster of the OASIS TC), go to > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/business-transact ion/members/leave_workgroup.php.
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