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Subject: Re: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting
+1. Mark. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Chapman" <martin.chapman@oracle.com> To: <Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM>; "'William Z Pope'" <zpope@pobox.com> Cc: "'Geoffrey Brown'" <Geoffrey.Brown@oracle.com>; <business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:08 AM Subject: RE: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting > All, > > I think the proposed meeting should have one topic on the agenda, as > proposed by Doug i.e. > the future of the BTP TC. Lets have that discussion, listen to views from > all sides and make > a decision. If the group decides to continue, we should formalise a regular > call schedule with an > agreed workplan. > > Cheers, > Martin. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM [mailto:Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:52 PM > > To: William Z Pope > > Cc: Geoffrey Brown; business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org > > Subject: Re: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting > > > > > > Bill, > > > > I do not think I implied reasons to go forward would be automatically > > off the table. My issue was specifically including > > discussion of those > > issues in an agenda of a meeting that may close the TC. As I > > said, the > > issues could be considered at a later time if we decide to go forward. > > > > thanx, > > doug > > > > On 16-Sep-03 16:42, William Z Pope wrote: > > > > > Doug, > > > I respectfully disagree. The issues are some of the > > outstanding items > > > for the TC and hence one reason that the TC might want to > > go forward. > > > Any discussion of closing down the TC should examine the > > reasons that > > > the TC might want to go forward as well as the reasons that > > it might > > > not. > > > > > > =bill > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM [mailto:Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM] > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:03 PM > > > To: William Z Pope > > > Cc: Geoffrey Brown; business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org > > > Subject: Re: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > I believe it inappropriate to discuss addressing issues at the same > > > meeting we work through the future existence of the group. I would > > > like to propose again, in stronger terms perhaps, that what > > we should > > > discuss in this meeting, and vote on, is whether after such a long > > > period of inactivity and after providing all our chartered > > > deliverables it makes any sense for this TC to continue. > > > > > > If the result is "yes" (the TC should continue its > > existence), then I > > > would like to see a proposed schedule of future meetings, > > deliverables > > > and how they fit into our Charter. Future meetings could > > be used to > > > discuss the issue list, means for addressing them and perhaps a > > > Charter modification [1] if the issues to be dealt with > > require such. > > > Until then, I think the we must constrain ourselves to one and only > > > one agenda item at the proposed meeting. Otherwise, we may > > create the > > > impression that suddenly, after all this time, the TC does > > indeed have > > > an agenda. > > > > > > thanx, > > > doug > > > > > > [1] Note that only clarifications are allowed to a Charter. If the > > > proposed deliverables are new, a new TC would need to do the work. > > > > > > On 16-Sep-03 11:01, William Z Pope wrote: > > > > > > > > >>The items that I have for the agenda are > > >>1. Doug's proposal > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/business-transaction/200309/msg00 > > > 013.ht > > > > > >>ml > > >> > > >>Several items that may be relevant to the discussion around Doug's > > > > > > proposal > > > > > >>2. BTP issues > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/business-transaction/200309/msg00 > > > 008.ht > > > > > >>ml > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/business-transaction/200309/msg00 > > > 009.ht > > > > > >>ml > > >> > > >>For people who are interested in attending the call, would > > you send me > > >>the dates and times that you are available and/or > > unavailble. We are > > >>looking for 1/2 to 1 1/2 hours between September 26th and October > > >>10th. > > >> > > >>Regards, > > >>=bill > > >> > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: Geoffrey Brown [mailto:Geoffrey.Brown@oracle.com] > > >>Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:23 PM > > >>To: Doug Bunting > > >>Cc: zpope@pobox.com; business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org > > >>Subject: Re: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting > > >> > > >> > > >>Folks, > > >> > > >>If we are to call a meeting can we establish an agenda first. > > >> > > >>Thanks, > > >> > > >>Geoff. > > >> > > >>Director > > >>GRID Technologies > > >>Advanced Technology Solutions > > >>Oracle Corporation > > >> > > >>Doug Bunting wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Bill, > > >>> > > >>>On our call a bit ago, you asked for my time constraints: > > >>>* I prefer slots that fit into the standard Pacific time work day > > >>>* all day on the 23rd works for me > > >>>* Wednesday through Friday of that week, I will be > > participating in a > > >>>face to face standards meeting (W3C Web Services Architecture WG) > > >>>* if I have time it would be Friday afternoon > > >>>* the 29th through 1 October, I will be participating in > > an internal > > >>>offsite meeting. While I may be able to pull myself out > > for a short > > >>>teleconference, I would prefer to be settled in my office > > rather than > > >>>on a cell phone for this meeting. > > >>>* On the 2nd and 3rd, my mornings are a bit cloudy. I may > > have some > > >>>time available earlier in the day on Friday (the 3rd). > > >>> > > >>>thanx, > > >>> doug > > >>> > > >>>PS. I have seen your question but not yet decided how I feel about > > >>>it. Will let you know. > > >>> > > >>>On 12-Sep-03 03:12, William Z Pope wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Doug, > > >>>>Interested in hearing your motion. That date and time > > work for me > > >>>>though I would also prefer something earlier. > > >>>> > > >>>>Regards, > > >>>>=bill > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>>From: Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM [mailto:Doug.Bunting@Sun.COM] > > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 5:36 PM > > >>>>>To: business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org > > >>>>>Subject: [business-transaction] Proposing a meeting > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Bill et al, > > >>>>> > > >>>>>I would like to make a motion for consideration by this > > TC. As far > > >>>>>as I know, such a motion must be raised during a meeting of the > > >>>>>group and cannot be submitted over email. While I would > > prefer to > > >>>>>set up a teleconference for next week, I suspect our > > quorum numbers > > >>>>>remain unchanged since the previous meeting and will therefore > > >>>>>suggest Tuesday, > > >>>>>23rd September to give as many people a chance to attend. If > > >>>>>the group > > >>>>>agrees, I would be happy to host the call. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>To pick a time out of the air, how about 10:00 AM Pacific time? > > >>>>> > > >>>>>thanx, > > >>>>> doug > > >>>>> > > >>>>>-- > > >>>>>SunNetwork 2003 Conference and Pavilion > > >>>>>"An unparalleled event in network computing! Make the > > net work for > > >>>>>you!" > > >>>>> > > >>>>>WHEN: September 16-18, 2003 > > >>>>>WHERE: Moscone Center, San Francisco > > >>>>> > > >>>>>For more information or to register for the conference, please > > >>>>>visit: http://www.sun.com/sunnetwork > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the > > >>>>>roster of the OASIS TC), go to > > >>>>>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/business-transact > > >>>> > > >>>>ion/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>>-- > > >>>SunNetwork 2003 Conference and Pavilion > > >>>"An unparalleled event in network computing! 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