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Subject: RE: [business-transaction] Plan to close this TC


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I missed the earlier round of epitaphs.  sic transit gloria.
 
I echo the thanks to all those involved and assisting. I still think BTP is closer to service oriented transactions than anything that has come after but we shall see how things develop.
 
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Fletcher [mailto:tony_fletcher@btopenworld.com]
Sent: 01 February 2006 22:24
To: business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [business-transaction] Plan to close this TC

I too would like to add my thanks to the OASIS staff that supported the BTP TC, Bill Pope for acting as Chair (and the previous Chairs) and all my colleagues on the TC from whom I learnt a great deal.  It was fun doing the work and congratulations to everyone involved - as others have noted, BTP has been implemented and has been influential.
 
Even though the TC may now close, I hope the influence of BTP continues
 
 
Best Regards     Tony
A M Fletcher
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Little [mailto:mark.little@jboss.com]
Sent: 01 February 2006 13:29
To: Alastair Green; James Bryce Clark
Cc: business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [business-transaction] Plan to close this TC

Although I'd obviously disagree with the "there's little been done" paragraph, I would like to second Alastair's thanks to the TC and OASIS staff. Irrespective of what came afterwards, it is true that the BTP work was important and did help to drive transactions in Web Services. I for one am proud to have been involved!
 
Mark.
 


From: Alastair Green [mailto:alastair.green@choreology.com]
Sent: Wed 01/02/2006 07:26
To: James Bryce Clark
Cc: business-transaction@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [business-transaction] Plan to close this TC

Jamie,

I think this is a recognition of reality. Thanks for your support and
that of Karl before you during the lifetime of this TC.

My personal best wishes to all current and former BT TC members and
observers.

In my view, in this area there's little been done since BTP 1.0 came out
in June 2002 that adds anything fundamental or very interesting to what
we achieved back then, with the exception of some real forward steps on
tranactions + security in WS-TX. It's a pity that the elegance and power
of BTP's single overarching approach to optimized 2PC-based coordination
of loosely-coupled systems has been so frequently underestimated,
misunderstood and misrepresented.

Alastair

James Bryce Clark wrote:
> Business Transaction TC members and observers:
>
>     OASIS rules permit and in some cases require OASIS staff to close
> a technical committee that falls below certain activity indicators,
> such as no meetings or specification ballots for a six month period,
> or the absence of progress towards achieving its goals as set forth in
> its charter. [1]
>
>     The BTP v1.0 specification was approved as an OASIS Committee
> Specification [2], and an updated v1.1 as a Committee Draft in late
> 2004 [3].  The work appears to have been implemented and also to have
> influenced several other transactional XML projects.  However,
> continuing work on the specification seems to have been completed.  I
> note no new postings from members to this list for in excess of six
> months.
>
>     Accordingly, we plan to close this TC in one week (on 7 February),
> unless members with an interest, and a plan for its reactivation and
> continuation,  propose an alternative that satisfies our rules before
> then.
>
>     We appreciate all of the contributions of the past and current
> members of the TC, all of which will remain permanently available to
> implementers and the public at [3] even in the event of a closure, in
> accordance with OASIS policy.
>
> Best regards  JBC
>
> ~   James Bryce Clark
> ~   Director, Standards Development, OASIS
> ~   jamie.clark@oasis-open.org
>
> [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#2.15
> [2]
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/1184/2002-06-03.BTP_cttee_spec_1.0.pdf
>
> [3] See
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=business-transaction
>
>
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