Re: [cacao] Outstanding Ballots

[Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>]

Pat - If we nominated one of the bi-weekly TC meetings to be 'the monthly' call then I think it would result in people getting voting rights easily and achieve the same thing.

Every TC meeting we typically do a quick recap of where we are at on progress and then spend time getting into the details.

Secondly, once someone has voting rights they donât just lose them immediately again.

So if folks want to attend just 1 monthly meeting they could just come to every other meeting and check in on the progress.

Regards

Allan

On 4/3/20, 7:45 AM, "MARONEY, PATRICK" <rx118r@att.com> wrote:

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    Allan,
    
    Thanks.  I closely analyzed the CACOA roster and meeting attendance data before commenting.  Yes there are a core group of people/organizations regularly participating.  My suggestion was targeted specifically increasing that participation in terms of Organizations engaged/represented.  If there's no perceived issue with same, then please simply disregard.
    
    
    Patrick Maroney
    Principal âCybersecurity
    AT&T Chief Security Office
    
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    From: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>
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    Subject: Re: [cacao] Outstanding Ballots
    
    Hi Pat - I think the working calls have been well attended for the most part. I will note that several of the regular attendees to the working calls, and who have voting rights, didn't actually vote on the ballots. We missed one of the ballots passing by 2 votes.
    
    So we would always welcome more participation on working calls. The lack of votes on the ballot were not because of lack of registered voters that could have voted on the ballots.
    
    Allan
    
    On 4/3/20, 6:10 AM, "MARONEY, PATRICK" <rx118r@att.com> wrote:
    
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        Re: "- I believe this was primarily because folks didn't vote as there were no *no* votes. Just lack of yes votes."
    
        Suggestion:
    
        Adoption of a more traditional OASIS TC process with monthly TC meetings that count towards voting rights (vs. having working meetings count towards same) might greatly extend voting rights to interested stakeholders.
    
        The current cadence/process make it impossible to achieve voting rights for some of us.  In my case I have a standing weekly meeting that will always conflict with the current consensus Tuesday CACAO calls
    
        A monthly TC call that determines voting rights (with evening sessions for those that have conflicts/time zone issues) could potentially double the roster of voting eligible members.  I of course understand the difficulties of chairing Day/Evening sessions.  But a change to more traditional TC meetings/voting rights MAY improve participation.
    
        Row Labels      Count of Id
        Chair                   2
        Member          27
        OASIS Staff Contact     2
        Observer                20
        Secretary               3
        Voting Member           20
        Grand Total             74
    
        Give it a try perhaps for a month or so?
    
        Patrick Maroney
        Principal âCybersecurity
        AT&T Chief Security Office
    
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        From: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>
        Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 3:54 PM
        To: cacao@lists.oasis-open.org
        Subject: Re: [cacao] Outstanding Ballots
    
        The ballots have closed.
    
        1) The requirements document has passed and was approved.
        2) The terminology document failed to reach the necessary votes to pass.
        - I believe this was primarily because folks didn't vote as there were no *no* votes. Just lack of yes votes.
    
        We will discuss on the next call what the TC wants to do with respect to the terminology document to re-ballot or other actions.
    
        Allan
    
        On 3/31/20, 8:06 AM, "cacao@lists.oasis-open.org on behalf of Allan Thomson" <cacao@lists.oasis-open.org on behalf of athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> wrote:
    
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            All - As mentioned on the call here are the 2 ballots currently open.
    
            For voting members please take a moment to review and vote.
    
            Requirements
            https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.oasis-2Dopen.org_apps_org_workgroup_cacao_ballot.php-3Fid-3D3488&d=DwIGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=oHkmGgeIxL4TTQnAS-pn1RnC4MvVUHoxFR7OdYWTKh8&m=hms45xHWxt8_OPf1ScLd7fuRaBKbk3LFsNt-5ql-ABo&s=acp1qESbU1x9cFpbxMLV9kQR0_nP6PluIznCFkZUiu8&e=
    
            Terminology
            https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.oasis-2Dopen.org_apps_org_workgroup_cacao_ballot.php-3Fid-3D3489&d=DwIGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=oHkmGgeIxL4TTQnAS-pn1RnC4MvVUHoxFR7OdYWTKh8&m=hms45xHWxt8_OPf1ScLd7fuRaBKbk3LFsNt-5ql-ABo&s=l_oFnDEjki906aWge-PRxbZs5Q4Q7TzdpYjhP-2P14c&e=
    
            Both ballots are for committee notes.
    
            Regards
    
            Allan