Re: [ebsoa] IBM BI-ICS

["Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>]

David,

I concur with your assessment of potential UBL overlap with their
Context efforts. The UBL Context Methodology subcommittee has not yet
released a document, but [1] indicates that "the latest date for
delivery of the CM document is March 29.". Of course, this overlap will
become clearer once IBM releases the Business Payload Composition piece
- no available date yet (I asked Scott Hinkleman).

Joe

[1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-cmsc/200403/msg00009.html

david.burdett@commerceone.com wrote:
> 
> There's more information on this initiative available at [1] and [2] and a specification at [3]. However Business Payload Composition bit sounds to me awfully similar in scope to work being done by UBL see [4] which says "The TC will then design a mechanism for the generation of context-specific business schemas through the application of transformation rules to the common UBL source library".
> 
> ... or am I missing something.
> 
> David
> 
> [1] http://xml.coverpages.org/ni2004-02-02-a.html
> [2] http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-biics/
> [3] ftp://www6.software.ibm.com/software/developer/library/x-biics/BI-ICSSpec_v1.html
> [4] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:26 PM
> To: ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org; CCRev; CAM; Registry TC - SCM SC
> Subject: [ebsoa] IBM BI-ICS
> 
> This morning at the XML.gov monthly meeting[1] I saw a presentation
> given by Scott Hinkleman of IBM on IBM's new "Business Integration -
> Information Conformance Standards (BI-ICS)" specification[2]. I found it
> quite interesting, and thought I'd provide a few comments here. Although
> not available as of this e-mail, the presentation should be available at
> the XML.gov site[3] within the next few days, if IBM does make it
> available.
> 
> BI-ICS essentially lives at what IBM calls the "Business Level" of the
> Web Services stack, above "Service Composition" (where WS BPEL,
> WS-Transaction, etc. live). I know - it sounds like the "ebXML area" of
> the stack, so we might very well expect some overlap in this and future
> specs - as BI-ICS is apparently one of 4 planned "specification areas"
> for this "framework" (my own use of this term) which is as of yet
> unnamed.
> 
> Another area will be "Business Payload Composition", which - Scott
> Hinkleman stated - "has its roots in ebXML Core Components", and
> specifies a "context-driven approach" to payload composition (overlaps,
> anyone?). Scott did, however, state that BI-ICS is "not IBM's answer to
> OASIS CAM".
> 
> IBM is soliciting interest in advancing BI-ICS to an open standards
> consortium.
> 
> Let the discussions begin...
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Joe
> 
> [1] http://xml.gov/agenda/20040317.htm
> [2] http://xml.coverpages.org/ni2004-02-02-a.html
> [3] http://xml.gov/presentations.asp