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Subject: Draft Minutes 28th November 2012


Meeting Minutes, 28th November 2012

Bhaskar Reddy assumes scribe duties for this meeting.

Attendees:

US Department of Defense (DoD) 	Michael Behrens 	Voting Member
Software AG, Inc. 			Bhaskar Reddy Byreddy 	Voting Member
Oracle 				Martin Chapman 	Chair
Fujitsu Limited 			Jacques Durand 	Voting Member
Individual 			Gershon Janssen 	Voting Member
Standing Cloud, Inc. 		David Jilk 		Voting Member
Oracle 				Anish Karmarkar 	Voting Member
Red Hat 				Tobias Kunze 	Voting Member
Oracle 				Ashok Malhotra 	Voting Member
Oracle 				Jeff Mischkinsky 	Voting Member
Rackspace Hosting, Inc. 		Adrian Otto 	Secretary
Oracle 				Gilbert Pilz 	Voting Member
Fujitsu Limited 			Tom Rutt 		Voting Member
Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. 	Zhexuan Song 	Voting Member
Software AG, Inc. 			Prasad Yendluri 	Voting Member

15 of 20 Members, 75%, meeting is Quorate

Agenda:

    Add discussion on editors
    motion for adopting the agenda, modified as noted above, passed

Minutes:

   6 -8th November 2012 F2F Minutes: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201211/msg00073.html 
     Motion: Jeff approved F2F minutes, second Adrian
     passed w/o

  14th November: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201211/msg00149.html 
     Motion: Jeff moved a motion to adopt 14th November minutes, Gershon seconds
     Note Adrian is a voting member
 	 passed w/o

Action Items:


 
  ACTION-20121108-0: Martin Chapman to request a specification template from the TC admin
  Ongoing, dependant on formation of editing team.

Administrivia:

   Jan 2013 F2F: Adrian will confirm dates and facilities this week.

   Editing Team: a lose end from the F2F to form a editing team responsible for both the spec and the test assertions deliverables.
      
     Motion: Jeff moved a motion to create an editing team of Anish, Jacques and Adrian, second: Tom Rutt
       Tom: everyone can provide comments to the editing team

       Adrian: do we have a kickoff meeting for editing team? 
       For the editors to sort out amongst themselves

      Jacques (Fujitsu): editor(s) expected to be a little more proactive w/r to TA - e.g. propose content to be TC-approved , not just wait for TC to draft test assertions.

     no objection; motion passed

  ACTION-20122811-0: Editing team to inform the Chair of what format (word or odf) they would like the templates in. 

New Issues:

  http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-29  -  Application Component" and "Platform Component" should be collapsed into a single "Component"...
    Martin: How this issue related to CAMP-5 ?
    CAMP-29 is about application and application component capabilities so they are related.

   Motion Gil: moves to open CAMP-29, Adrian: Second
   no objections; CAMP-29 open

  http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-30 - Parameter Scheme
   Ashok: passing parameters to customize the runtime application?
   Adrian: potentially yes

  Motion: Adrian: motion to open CAMP-30, Jeff: seconds
  no objections; CAMP-30 is open

   http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-31 - State change mechanism is unclear
     Tom: need to discuss about the triggers for the state transitions
     Adrian: it is going to difficult to close this issue without defining the extensibility model
     Jacques: create a separate issue for describing extensibility model
     https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-28 is the lifecycle model extension issue

    Motion: Jeff: motion to open CAMP-31, Tom: Seconds
    no objections; CAMP-31 is open

   http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-32 - CAMP needs to say something about the serialization of null attribute values and empty arrays

   Motion: Gil moves to open CAMP-32, Adrian: seconds
   no objections; CAMP-32 is open

   http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-33 - Time zones and timestamps

   Motion: Tobias: moves to open CAMP-33, Anish: seconds
   no objections; CAMP-33 opened

Issue Discussion:
 

   http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-24 -  Assembly Template and Assembly trees should be analogous
    Gil: presenting changed Assembly Template and Assembly Component Templates

   Martin:we could use UML!
   Jacques (Fujitsu): +1 to UML (you get cardinality)
   Michael Behrens: +1 to UML
   Separate out the issue wrt diagraming notation 


   Discussion on the cardinality of the links; some of the issues are fixed as part of CAMP-24

    Motion: Gil: moves to resolve issue 24 with the final proposal in JIRA, Adrian seconds
    Final proposal includes the cardinality fixes discussed on the call
   no objections; motion carried

 http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-5 - Suggest to simplify {Application,Platform} Component {Requirements,Capability}
  no concrete proposal; no discussion now, but clarification has been obtained in the jira discussion.

 http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-29 - Application Component" and "Platform Component" should be collapsed into a single "Component"...
   continue discussions in Jira

 http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-13 -   Media Type "type" argument not compatible with Python request parsers
   each request to have a type attribute; not use Media Type
   CAMP-13 is close to resolution but running out of time this week to approve

AOB:

  Straggler roll: None

Meeting adjourned

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Summary of New and outstanding Action Items:

  ACTION-20121108-0: Martin Chapman to request a specification template from the TC admin
  ACTION-20122811-0: Editing team to inform the Chair of what format (word or odf) they would like the templates in.


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